Rogues in Rogueport 2: The Uprising - Mafia Game - Game Thread - Night 6

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... Well, that is saying something. Would love to hear your other thoughts in relation to that, then.

View attachment 62028: Should you care to know who among the Tribe of Rogue have gained Tasse's favor... chief among them is the Scholar of Manga (Revin). Their weaving of a trap and guidance to the youth are impressive. Some express concern that he designed the trap into which the Sparking One fell, attributing treachery to his threads. A possibility, but one I do not place great weight upon. I would consider more alarming any who would place him under suspicion. Rather than suspicion, a scholar belongs beneath a log, undisturbed by prying eyes, hoho!



View attachment 62028: The Nectared One (Rose)... of their attunement, I am not yet certain. It may be that she was among the second to make accusation against the Sparking One, but she has offered wise counsel again and again. A confident force among a town roiled like the whaleroad in a tempest, had she wished to incite a mob against the Weathered Rat or any target of her choice, all fortune would have favored her. That she casts aspersions towards the Scholar of Manga, however, sows the seed of doubt. Perhaps she is as helpful as she appears... but the fickle rain of votes shall yet nourish the seed of doubt or condemn it to die!
This is an oddly firm position. My suspicions on the manga reader are enough to say that I might be a Traitor? How are we so sure? The guise of helpfulness doesn't eliminate the possibility of him being Traitor altogether. At this point in time, he's not in my hot seat, but I'd call it reasonable to give anyone in play a level of scrutiny right now!

Open speculation here: feels like this could easily be a move to prime people to vote my way later. If you are a Traitor yourself, you could be getting buddy-buddy with a strong Investigator in hopes that he'll have your back. You could also both be Traitors, but there's little reason for a show this strong this early.

Besides, you can understand me having some trepidations about the guy who silenced me.

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Yeah, I knew he silenced me. Got the notice straight away. Just thought I'd keep the floor open, see what he'd say when I gave other appearances. Still not fond of having no vote today, but at least he was direct about it.
 
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Oh no! Not another one! We're dropping like flies!

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~ Bzzt Bzzt Bzzt Bzzt Bzzt Bzzt! ~

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Hoo! Finally!

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Hello? Judge? Is this you?

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Listen up. We have news for you.

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What's the news!? Can we finally resume the competition?

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Scratch the competition! Scratch everything! The X-Nauts have got their hands all over this!

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What!? We can't do that!

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Sorry. It's too late. After we heard word about the X-Nauts being involved, we– *click*

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Ugh! I can't believe I'm hearing about this just now! Who cares about the X-Nauts! We're still finishing this rock paper scissors competition!

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Sigh... Now, which round were we on? I'm so kerflummoxed, I don't even know anymore...
 
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View attachment 62063 Sigh... Now, which round were we on? I'm so kerflummoxed, I don't even know anymore...


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Allow me to help you get your bearings. You and I are currently facing off. I've just thrown my specialised "Vote: Hint Toad" hand sign against you, and as I'm sure you know, the only way to match it is to use the "Tell everyone what you think about the actual game of mafia so far, including who you trust and who you are suspicious of" hand sign, which naturally is accompanied by some words from your mouth describing what you think about the game of mafia so far. Since I've so clearly telegraphed my move, I'm sure you'll have no problem beating me.
 
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@Revin @Roserade
Shmalu Sniffer:
So you want my opinions on the matter see? Well if im being honest the only individuals im suspicious of are Bigboom and that Mr N fellow, Big Boom for all the points previously discussed about how many seem to be drawing attention away from him, alongside Mr N who seems at times rather accusatory see,

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Mr. N
Tbh I cant even balme u for feelin this way as I did start a vote that ultimately led to a innocent voted out but I do have to remind u that, as the agent said, we do need to accuse people at times even as innocents or else we let the mafia lead us into oblivion ,we might be wrong soemtimes but if we're too afraid to make a mistake then we'll just be letting the mafia eliminate whoever they want!!1!

tho if ur sus of me i have to wonder why ur also sus of bigboom as im pretty sure that i was the one who brought up that other players might be deflecting from him (one of which is now dead and confirmed inno too), so im curious what ur thoughts are here; do you think that both me and bigboom are mafia, or just one of us? there could be reasons for either way but id like to hear them from urself

"What're you talking about, dude? I haven't heard from you at night."
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Mr. N
dam I try to slide into a girls dms and she ghosts me instantly feels bad man

Sounds like the thing that happened wasn't on your end, more likely someone targeting me, so that's all I needed to know. thank you for your cooperation have a good day unvote

ill hold off recasting my vote for now but im curious to here what the detective man's promised full thoughts are
 
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I'm afraid I have some other commitments to attend tonight, so my thoughts here may be a bit rushed. That said, I would rather get them out now, rather than in the twilight hours of the day.

Good books
Boo1268: He does seem to genuinely be an eager innocent party. The fact that he didn't really understand his extra location-based role seems, to me, like an indication that he doesn't have any experienced teammates in his ear goading him into using it for nebulous purposes, so that works in his favour.
Nine: Based on the interaction between himself and CoCo, I surmise that he was likely roleblocked but wasn't 100% sure how to interpret his results, and thus needed to bring it up publicly. I feel if you get roleblocked as a mafia, you just don't bring it up because it looks like you're rolefishing, so based on that and some of the things Rose brought up, I'm getting good vibes right now.
YtSSM: Honestly, mostly just a vibe. I like how he called out Flotzo and then Flotzo ignored it. Apparently was part of Sparks' neighbourhood? More on that whole thing in a bit.

Currently unsure
WT, Rose, Pito: Experienced players who are all making good points about things, but also have enough experience to be able to make good points regardless of alignment.
Clawgrip, Cloudwalker: Very bouncy. Not in a Tigger sort of way, but in a "I'm making a lot of noise and also some votes but none of them really mean a lot" kind of way. Cloudwalker I am more suspicious of, mostly for that last vote on Sparks with no real reasoning attached. A classic bandwagon vote.
Flotzo: Has not responded to either my or YtSSM's questions. Giving some slack because of IRL commitments, but I expect answers soon.

The quiet club
CoCo, BigBoom: Only posting when pinged. Showing up and not contributing anything other than what was initially asked, and not engaging in original thoughts. Not a big fan of that.
Hint Toad: Also part of the quiet club, except he also didn't bother to address what was initially asked either! Very annoying! I'm going to vote you out if you keep that up!!!

One last point. The lynching of Sparks was not something I particularly opposed, for the sake of information, but it does bring to attention something that I think may be sliding past some of our new players.

  • Role claiming is allowed, but players should NOT be quoting, taking screenshots or sharing anything regarding their role cards (including claiming the character), or any messages sent to them privately by the host. If a player is caught breaking the following rule, they will be modkilled immediately.

It is easy to only focus in on the big, scary bold text here, but please keep in mind the equally important first four words: Role claiming is allowed. This means that, when people are trying to lynch you, there is room for you to actually tell us your role. Obviously, you shouldn't share anything directly from the host, as stated in the bold text, but saying something like "I'm the cop, I checked X Y and Z" is something you should absolutely be doing if you are an innocent cop who is about to be lynched.

Obviously, sharing your role for no reason when no one is looking your way is foolish, and a good way to get a target on your back. But when the target is already there, sharing that information can literally be the difference between life or death. If Sparks had actually claimed Neighbourizer, it may have convinced some people to step back, particularly if YtSSM came to back it up.

Of course, mafia can do a "fake claim", where they claim a role they don't have to get suspicion off their backs, or potentially bait the real person who has the role into revealing themselves, so all roleclaims should still be treated with some amount of scrutiny. But, it's still better to share what you can even if you still die, because it lets those who are left behind piece together more informed deductions than if you had kept quiet.
 
Oh, do believe me, crustac- what is your name, by the way? Anyway, do believe me, I am very calm right now. I'm simply requesting the moth lift their vote from me as I have done what they asked for.
"Aye, me name be ClawgripFan9001, though ClawgripFan or just Clawgrip work just as easily fer me. Either way, just as the moth said, just because ye did what she asked ye ta do don't mean yer gonna be let off the hook. Ye still be showin' visible an' audible signs o' bein' incredibly suspicious, which be why I'm keepin' me vote cast t'wards ya. An' unless anyone 'as a good reason ta convince me otherwise, it's stayin' there 'til the shiver o' night arrives once more."
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Vote tally:
Cloudwalker (2) - Hooded Pitohui, ClawgripFan9001
Cosmic Cowboy (1) - Ninelevendo
No vote (9) - Waluigi Time, Boo1268, Roserade, Power Flotzo, Cloudwalker, Yoshi the SSM, Reverse Input, Cosmic Cowboy, Hint Toad, BigBoom1964

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24 hours remain...

Day 3 ends .
"Agent F be pretty on the nose in regards ta which information be true an' which information be false 'ere. It'll come in handy goin' forward, fer sure. As far as the rest o' the more experienced investigators are concerned, they definitely all be makin' good points, regardless o' their alignment. The more rookie investigators dwellin' amongst me level o' experience don't seem ta be takin' the investigation all that seriously, though, which definitely be a problem, since that makes it difficult ta get a read on their alignment in any given manner...No matter, though! I'm feelin' pretty confident as things currently stand, I say!"
 
In the speech of overdwellers - deliver a vote. Only then shall I accede to your request.
If I am perfectly honest, I am without knowledge on how I seem so suspicious. I am new to situations such as these. No matter. You have asked for a vote, and you shall get it.

Vote: ClawgripFan9001

It bugs me a little how quickly you had joined the vote for me, based upon my wanting not to be executed. Wouldn't anyone hope for survival? I doubt this will lead to anything, but it is my suspicion. Possibly incorrect, sure. But there is no way to know for certain. I doubt the many agree with this choice, but it is what I suspect.
 
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: So finally your evasion is dispelled. Very well. Vote: Unvote. New revelations have been made, some of great consequence. Having only now awoken from a nap most long, mists still hang over my judgment. Permit time that I may consider matters further.
 
Vote: ClawgripFan9001

It bugs me a little how quickly you had joined the vote for me, based upon my wanting not to be executed. Wouldn't anyone hope for survival? I doubt this will lead to anything, but it is my suspicion. Possibly incorrect, sure. But there is no way to know for certain. I doubt the many agree with this choice, but it is what I suspect.
"Maybe, but if it be fer the survival o' the greater good in this world, then it be a risk I'll 'ave ta take, Xzzwls. Seein' as the moth 'umbled yer request by withdrawin' her vote t'wards ye since ye 'umbled her request o' lettin' actions speak louder than words, the vote tally be currently in a tie 'tween the two o' us, the crazy Toad an' the purple-eyed maiden. It won't be much longer 'till nightfall arrives, so at the end o' the day, we'll just 'ave ta wait an' see who shall walk the plank ta the gallows an' shall get ta see 'nother day."
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Alright, I'll back off. Keeping my eye on you, though.

Unvote

Looks like everyone else I'd want to hear from's got a vote already. I'm not interested in piling on them further right now.

Got a question for @Glitz Yoshi though - looks like this one slipped past me the first time. So if I got this right... Sparks started up a neighborhood between the two of you. When he was the main suspect yesterday, you didn't try to defend him at all, just tried to deflect attention over to that Stingy kid. You said something later about him not wanting any help trying to prove his innocence. Do I got that right?

It just rubs me the wrong way, if I'm being honest. I'd assume based on that power of his you'd at least have some inkling he was clear? Starting up private chats with folks, well, that's not really a power I'd typically associate with the scum.
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Glitz Yoshi: "Yeah. I wasn't sure how to go about trying to defend him. And when I asked Sparks sometime during the last day phase on how to go about this defending, that is when he said he wanted to try to do it himself. However, since we were the only ones, the conversation between us is only known to the both of us. And since I am the only one alive, you only have my word what was said in there. Anyways, I wouldn't say I completely didn't defend him at all. Take a look at this part."
And I didn't see a reason for voting for Sparks before because I used a randomizer before as well and as an innocent. Even if it was a different randomizer. Even now I am not quite sure if I should vote for Sparks.
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Glitz Yoshi (Red).pngGlitz Yoshi: "In either case, looking at the current situation, I think I can make a vote to see what happens. Vote: Hint Toad. Yes. That's right. I am breaking the tie. But this is because this vote will put some pressure on Rock Paper Wizard so that we can actually get some information out of him. Because the only thing I saw from him so far is a counter vote on Day 1. And I was fine with him doing rock paper scissors on Day 1 provided that he did do something later on. But currently it is Day 3 and nothing from him so far. But with elimination being an actual threat instead of a possibility of elimination might encourage him to do something more."
 
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Mr. N
Tbh I cant even balme u for feelin this way as I did start a vote that ultimately led to a innocent voted out but I do have to remind u that, as the agent said, we do need to accuse people at times even as innocents or else we let the mafia lead us into oblivion ,we might be wrong soemtimes but if we're too afraid to make a mistake then we'll just be letting the mafia eliminate whoever they want!!1!

tho if ur sus of me i have to wonder why ur also sus of bigboom as im pretty sure that i was the one who brought up that other players might be deflecting from him (one of which is now dead and confirmed inno too), so im curious what ur thoughts are here; do you think that both me and bigboom are mafia, or just one of us? there could be reasons for either way but id like to hear them from urself
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You make some good points see, we need to be more vigilant, as for my assumptions if more info comes to light im in the consideration on voting for either one of you, my reasons for Big Boom still stand, alongside the fact that it just seems too easy for someone to claim that they forgot about the game see, gives them the perfect opportunity to kill without being caught!....but now that I think about it see, there's one other individual we've been writing off as just a joke see, thats the Rock Paper Wizard see? Im makin the claim that since hes gone mostly under the radar he could have the perfect opportunity to kill without being noticed similar to that Bigboom fellow, again this is all assumptions on my part see, and if any of yall have some evidence to back up my claim see, I would be happy to hear it.
 
As requested:

Vote tally:
Hint Toad (2) - Reverse Input, Yoshi the SSM
Cloudwalker (1) - ClawgripFan9001
ClawgripFan9001 (1) - Cloudwalker
No vote (8) - Boo1268, Roserade, Power Flotzo, Cosmic Cowboy, Hint Toad, BigBoom1964, Waluigi Time, Ninelevendo, Hooded Pitohui
 
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View attachment 62066 Allow me to help you get your bearings. You and I are currently facing off. I've just thrown my specialised "Vote: Hint Toad" hand sign against you, and as I'm sure you know, the only way to match it is to use the "Tell everyone what you think about the actual game of mafia so far, including who you trust and who you are suspicious of" hand sign, which naturally is accompanied by some words from your mouth describing what you think about the game of mafia so far. Since I've so clearly telegraphed my move, I'm sure you'll have no problem beating me.
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Ah ha! So you're challenging me, eh? I'll accept your challenge!

You probably know more than me about this game but if you want my thoughts then I'll be happy to share. From what I have heard there has been little to no evidence about who killed who. And most judgments have been based upon who sounds the most suspicious. In that case, I'd like to look at what we do have. And that is votes, and post reactions. It seems to me that the killers would be the most interested in this game, so it follows that they would be the most involved and give the most reactions to posts.

Ok I've just counted the last 12 or so posts and it looks like Clawgrip has by far the most reactions. What do you think?
 
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Alright, look, my horse in today's race is comparatively small because I don't have voting pressure to give. There's something I would really like addressed, though.
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"Hey-hey, relax, would you? You've had a stick up your ass this entire time."

"I mean, like, we're all probably gonna die, but whatever! Loosen up! I know you're cool. You and Old Man Rat (WT). I have my ways."



"What're you talking about, dude? I haven't heard from you at night."​
I'm not exactly thrilled with vague talk like this. Okay, you have intel that me and the rat are chill. This seems like a surprise claim to come out of nowhere on day three, with little actual pressure on you. But that's not what's getting me fiery.

Tell us, please. If this is a stance you're certain of, what does it tell you about the other players currently in the game? I've been very vocal, how do you read other people's responses to what I'm saying? What do you make of the rat's theories? Does anyone actually seem suspicious to you?

It is not enough to come in, casually claim that two talkative players are good guys trust me, and then have little more. I want more indications of how you, as a player, perceive the actions of other players.

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I might be coming across as a hard-ass, but investigations like this are the real deal. We need cooperation from every agent, or they're getting knocked out. This goes for everyone here: Mafia is a game of observation and communication. The best defense you can provide yourself is a theory or an insight towards another player. If you really feel something in your gut, follow up on it and be attentive.

I'm aware other people are new to the field, or maybe rusty. That's fine. But be sure to at least give us something.
 
"Aye, Agent F be right as rain 'ere! Mafia games like this are ta be taken seriously as far as observation an' communication be concerned! Ye can't just turn up when ye 'appen ta be pinged by someone, give a bland response merely a paragraph long an' then call it a day! If ye weren't gonna take the investigation seriously in the first place, then ye might as well 'ave stayed away from Rogueport 'till this boggledybook been put ta bed rather than wastin' both innocent townsfolk's precious time an' givin' deceptive mafia an easy time pickin' the townsfolk off one by one!"
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How are we so sure? The guise of helpfulness doesn't eliminate the possibility of him being Traitor altogether. At this point in time, he's not in my hot seat, but I'd call it reasonable to give anyone in play a level of scrutiny right now!

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: Nectared One, as one may divine events to come from the scattering of fungal spores, Tasse finds meaning in imprecations. The Scholar of Manga was the first to move against the Sparking One. Do you not agree that, amidst such fog as there is early into an investigation, such a move would present risk undesirable to a conspirator? I do not hold it impossible for the scholar to commit treachery, but what force would compel one to tread so early into the funnel of antilions? Wished he to deceive, better means could one studied as he furnish.

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: But such were words of yore. Then was then. Now is now.

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: And now is that before us the Dexterous One stands... encased in the resin of confusion.

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: Dexterous One (@Hint Toad), do you understand our purpose? Your mind is not so muddled with the spells of Roshambo that you mistake this dwellingport for the site of a Killing Game, yes? Your words inspire confidence not. Allow Tasse to provide illumination.

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: "Little to no evidence", you, a gheurplegh trapped within a stonehollow, say. Tasse bears warning. The evidence which you seek is rare as diamond neath ground. The evidence to which you must direct yourself are these: accusations with gallow's threat, suspicions whispered amidst the public square, and the attunements of the perished.

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: ...or as the youth may say - votes, the logic behind suspicions and theories, and confirmed alignments.

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: Mere reaction, what does it say? We should hear your accusation with roots planted in the imprecations wielded by other members of the Tribe of Rogue. If until now, your roshambo has overwhelmed you... Tasse provides militdheu:

Day One
Revin votes Boo1268
YtSSM votes Cloudwalker
Cloudwalker votes Boo1268
Boo1268 changes to no elimination
YtSSM changes to Coco
Ninelevendo votes Hint Toad
ClawgripFan votes no elimination
Sparks votes Boo1268
Hint Toad votes Ninelevendo
Ninelevendo to no vote
MightyMario votes no elimination
Flotzo votes no elimination
WT votes no elimination
Coco votes no elimination
YtSSM changes to no elimination
Cloudwalker changes to no elimination

Day 2
Nine votes Sparks
Revin votes BigBoom
Sparks votes BigBoom
Sparks changes to no elimination
ClawgripFan votes WT
Rose votes Sparks
MightyMario votes Sparks
ClawgripFan changes to no vote
Pitohui votes ClawgripFan
Sparks changes to Pitohui
YtSSM votes Flotzo
Cloudwalker votes Sparks

Day 3
ClawgripFan votes WT
Pitohui votes Cloudwalker
ClawgripFan changes to Cloudwalker
Ninelevendo votes Coco
WT votes Pitohui
Revin votes Hint Toad
WT changes to no vote
Ninelevendo changes to no vote
Cloudwalker votes ClawgripFan
YtSSM votes Hint Toad
Boo1268 votes Hint Toad

EDIT: Boo doesn't actually have a vote down on Hint Toad according to the tally
 
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Well, I was willing to just let the so-called "wizard" have his fun for a while but things have gotten a bit sketchy for my tastes. Between trying to dodge Sholmés' questioning earlier and especially that last argument... kinda looks like desperation from someone being backed into a corner, doesn't it? I get some of us are green but we're not stumbling around blind on day 1 anymore for that kind of talk.

It's either him or Xzzwls right now, but can't say I still haven't shaken that uneasy feeling about voting for the suit.

Vote: Hint Toad
 
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Not trying to dissuade the vote, but I did want to say: it's been a while since there's been a jester floating around, hasn't it?

That would be funny.
 
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Mr. N
Cant say im feeling particularly strongly about anyone in particular at the moment BUT after looking at the moth mans vote counts I think I understand why… theirs been less votes than alive players, and thats including vote chnages… thats kinda fishy

Its stsrting to feel like to me we need to whittle down the afk sus list… theres been quite a lot of mafia games were multiple mafia members would hide im the shadows and not post unless specifically called out… and it feels like the same thing is happening here

Let me break it down for you mark, mostly listing players that havent posted or voted much:

- Boo: I wouldn't say that their inactive per say but they've been very noncommittal about actually voting anyone, probably more an inexperience thing and on the bottom of my sus list from this player pool but worth noting anyway

- Flotzo: Shows up once, votes revin, refuses to elaborate further, leaves. If they didnt say theyd be afk this phase this is where my vote would be for sure.

- Yoshi the SSM: Doesn't post a lot but at least has some stuff to say, the vote against hint toad to get him to talk seemed quite logical so im getting good vibes atm

- Cocoa: has only shown up when called out and not elaborated on there thoughts any further, I was only interested in voting for them this phase to see what was happening with role shenanigans but if they dont start showing up more often we may need to put them on the chopping block

- Hint Toad: The lack of contribution has been noted multiple times and the latest response has been… unsatisfactory. More below.

- Bigboom: Has barely said anything unless specifically pinged. Might as well start here next phase as we're not going to get any other information out of them otherwise.

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I would've liked to give them more time to elaborate on their thoughts as they have started to respond, but with the way things are looking vote wise it's seeming like too little too late, and Id rather not leave room for a last minute mafia push in another direction so I'll Vote: Hint Toad. Also still salty that he cheated at rashobo that rascal
 
what does it tell you about the other players currently in the game?
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"I only know four people are 100% innocent. Me, you, Rat Guy (WT), and the Cop. I'm not saying who the Cop is, because I'm not about to snitch on a guy like that, come on."

Does anyone actually seem suspicious to you?
"I know everyone else is saying this, but Rock Paper Wizard. His little theory about reaction score is tangential, at best. While, yeah, Mafia would be interested... shouldn't EVERYONE be interested? I mean, I've been kinda sitting back, which is totally on me, but still."

"Tangentially related here, but Mr. N being roleblocked means, of course, he has a role. I'd like to say it's a good one, but just in case."

Vote: Nine

"What were you so interested in me for last night? Again, you don't exactly have to roleclaim, but I'd like to know."

I've been very vocal, how do you read other people's responses to what I'm saying? What do you make of the rat's theories
"These two kinda go together, because he might've be onto something. Your theory about the houses might've just been smoke and mirrors, but I know that you two are both innocent. He wasn't following a bad train of thought, though."​
 
I show up, organize a Rock Paper Scissors contest, and what happens next? People start turning on you! Even tho I barely have done anything else! A couple of people have accused me for not participating in voting or sharing thoughts about the game. And I'll admit it my roleplaying is to blame. With the wacky premise of me not knowing that this was a Mafia Game, altho it was funny, I probably dragged it on too long.
 
A couple of people have accused me for not participating in voting or sharing thoughts about the game.

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: So you have no word to raise in your defense. No power do you proclaim, and no imprecation will you offer. An obscurantist has no place among this dwellingport. Begone with you! Vote: Hint Toad
 
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