The forums are changing quickly..

[Noahp89]

I didn't know where to put this, so I put it here.


Anyone else feel that the forums are changing fast?


In the past 2 months, some of the most mature members left. ChaosNinji is no longer in charge, and now the forums seem completely different. Of course, Stooben does a great job, but the forum seems way different without Ninji. Smiddle has also left.


Anyone else feel that the forums are now completely different?

 

[Nerdy Guy]

Re: The forums are changing fast..

I guess. Some of the old threads from 2007 or even as recent as late-2008 make the forum look kind of like a Happy Village, but some more recent ones make it look like a Crapsack World or a Wretched Hive. Though not all of them are that bad. It seemed to have calmed a little for some weird reason after Ninji left...

Side-Note:
Since this is directly about the forum, I'd say it should be in General Discussion.

 

[Noahp89]

Mov'd.


Thanks.

Yeah, that's what I mean. I miss all of Ninji's name changing. The whole fad thing isn't a big now that he's gone. I wish he wouldn't have left.

 

[Nerdy Guy]

Yeah, that's what I mean. I miss all of Ninji's name changing. The whole fad thing isn't a big now that he's gone. I wish he wouldn't have left.

He still comes online. Though most of that time is spent telling me stuff along the lines of "You're joking, right? I could do better then that. You're not very good at this."... -_-

 

[SiFi]

Whenever a big new Mario game like NSMBWii comes out, all sorts of people join. Most are unbearable. Most thankfully don't stay for that long.

 

[Stooben]

I think it's because they were such a big part of the forum for so long. ChaosNinji's retired; Smiddle's retired; Uniju is active, but his original account was deleted, so half of our older conversations make absolutely no sense; 3D's been gone for hella long time; Blitz retired; Toadbert rarely comes by; I could go on for a while. Plus, Rudnicki/Maria/Mr. Yellow's attacks are a huge rarity these days, as opposed to being multiple times a day. The changes in the extended community (Userpedia, Xephyr, chat, and the MarioWiki itself) all have an impact on each other, so changes are bound to happen.

All communities go through these changes, some for the better, some for the worse. I'd like to think of it more like the forum is growing a new generation. And because this generation is still "new", there's still many changes yet to be made to make it memorable. Plus, you never know, some people might unretire, which would bring some form of nostalgia back here; it's happened before, who's to say it won't happen again?

 

[Super Mario Bros.]

Plus, you never know, some people might unretire, which would bring some form of nostalgia back here; it's happened before, who's to say it won't happen again?

One example being Knife. He was gone since... 2007? And he returned, like, a month or two ago. Stumpers came back after a few months to tell us why he had to leave. Paper Jorge edits a bit more than before.

Heck, I went away the day I joined in March 2008, and came back in April 2009.

 

[Nerdy Guy]

Actually, 3D was online last month according to his profile. That's the last I've heard of him though.

Pretty much "Per Stoob".

One thing I noticed is that the Xephyr board has gotten darker and edgier compared to the earliest thread on there. Userpedia is focused more on fiction then user articles and comics nowadays. The wiki itself has become more of a seperate community then the forum and UP due to new users now being all over the place and the other community areas being less known by said newbies (a proposal on putting UP on the wiki sidebar once even got multiple No Votes along the lines of "Userpedia has nothing to do with us! They should work for being put on the sidebar. Just because they mention us doesn't mean they should get special treatmeant!" -_-)

Also, not many active users are aware of the forum. Smashgoom202 was even around for 2 or 3 years before he even knew we had a forum.

As a result of these things (plus Stoob's points), the forum is not very active anymore.

 

[Uniju]

Selective memory. No one actually liked ChaosNinji while he was in charge, Smiddle has basically been retired for months, 3Dejong has been gone too long for anyone actually active here apart from me and a couple mods/admins to remember him, Blitzwing was mean to me, Toadbert was a noob when he was active here, and the people who enjoyed Rudnicki got a rule put up against themselves.

(a proposal on putting UP on the wiki sidebar once even got multiple No Votes along the lines of "Userpedia has nothing to do with us! They should work for being put on the sidebar. Just because they mention us doesn't mean they should get special treatmeant!" -_-)

Userpedia doesn't have anything to do with us, though.

 

[Stooben]

Actually, 3D was online last month according to his profile. That's the last I've heard of him though.

True, but I don't think he actually posted.

One thing I noticed is that the Xephyr board has gotten darker and edgier compared to the earliest thread on there.

Xephyr was largely affected by some stuff on Userpedia. When Xephyr was originally created, there was still hope of ScribbleWiki coming back, and the general environment on all these sites was much lighter. Then Userpedia disappeared, Jaime went schizo, and Rudnicki and his clan of dorks started attacking all the sites full-force; this made the atmosphere a lot tenser. Xephyr, having the loosest rules, naturally showed the most emotion from this. Then I got hacked and Neurario went insane, which kind of triggered the whole thing all over again while the community was still weak and sore from all the trouble we had already gone through. I wouldn't necessarily say Xephyr getting "darker and edgier" would be a bad thing (I know you didn't say that), but it's more or less a way for users to let their emotions show at pretty much full-force.

Userpedia is focused more on fiction then user articles and comics nowadays.

Plus I retired, and I only plan to stop by to update my RPG article and fix up my own article. Not to sound egotistical, but I was a pretty big part of that site.

The wiki itself has become more of a seperate community then the forum and UP due to new users now being all over the place and the other community areas being less known by said newbies (a proposal on putting UP on the wiki sidebar once even got multiple No Votes along the lines of "Userpedia has nothing to do with us! They should work for being put on the sidebar. Just because they mention us doesn't mean they should get special treatmeant!" -_-)

To be fair, Userpedia is not something that should be on the sidebar; that's for in-site or direct affiliate (the forum and chat) navigation only. That said, Userpedia should have a little button in the affiliates section of the main page.

Also, not many active users are aware of the forum. Smashgoom202 was even around for 2 or 3 years before he even knew we had a forum. As a result of these things (plus Stoob's points), the forum is not very active anymore.

Yup. I've thought about advertising the forum a little more on the wiki, but I haven't come up with any decent ideas.

 

[Super Mario Bros.]

Actually, 3D was online last month according to his profile. That's the last I've heard of him though.

True, but I don't think he actually posted.

One thing I noticed is that the Xephyr board has gotten darker and edgier compared to the earliest thread on there.

Xephyr was largely affected by some stuff on Userpedia. When Xephyr was originally created, there was still hope of ScribbleWiki coming back, and the general environment on all these sites was much lighter. Then Userpedia disappeared, Jaime went schizo, and Rudnicki and his clan of dorks started attacking all the sites full-force; this made the atmosphere a lot tenser. Xephyr, having the loosest rules, naturally showed the most emotion from this. Then I got hacked and Neurario went insane, which kind of triggered the whole thing all over again while the community was still weak and sore from all the trouble we had already gone through. I wouldn't necessarily say Xephyr getting "darker and edgier" would be a bad thing (I know you didn't say that), but it's more or less a way for users to let their emotions show at pretty much full-force.

Userpedia is focused more on fiction then user articles and comics nowadays.

Plus I retired, and I only plan to stop by to update my RPG article and fix up my own article. Not to sound egotistical, but I was a pretty big part of that site.

The wiki itself has become more of a seperate community then the forum and UP due to new users now being all over the place and the other community areas being less known by said newbies (a proposal on putting UP on the wiki sidebar once even got multiple No Votes along the lines of "Userpedia has nothing to do with us! They should work for being put on the sidebar. Just because they mention us doesn't mean they should get special treatmeant!" -_-)

To be fair, Userpedia is not something that should be on the sidebar; that's for in-site or direct affiliate (the forum and chat) navigation only. That said, Userpedia should have a little button in the affiliates section of the main page.

Also, not many active users are aware of the forum. Smashgoom202 was even around for 2 or 3 years before he even knew we had a forum. As a result of these things (plus Stoob's points), the forum is not very active anymore.

Yup. I've thought about advertising the forum a little more on the wiki, but I haven't come up with any decent ideas.

Perhaps a template that would go on user's pages saying "I am a member of the [[Forum:index.php|MarioWiki Forum]]!" or something like that.