Pokémon Mafia 2 - Game Thread (Day 5)

[October Yoshi the SSM]

Knuckles: "Flicky! Who sent you!"

Flicky: "I already told you. Nine."
Knuckles: "Flicky! They are saying I must be one of those mafia thieves. Is this Dr. Robotic's doing?"
Flicky: "I have no idea what you are talking about."

Knuckles: "I do not like being tricked. What do you know?"
Flicky: "What are you talking about?"

Knuckles: "... So. You are not telling me. Alright then. I guess I have to find these mafia thieves myself."

Knuckles: "Look. I honestly thought that I was coming here to help you out with catching these thieves. But if what you guys are saying is true, that means I was sent under a false pretense. But at least, if that is even true, I will help you guys out in finding these mafia thieves. As I am not part of that group. I may be sent by them. However..."
Knuckles: "I will make them regret that decision should that be true. And if not, the thieves will have to deal with my fury for trying to cast sus on me. @Super Jack Sunshine @Evil Power Flotzo . Make your best case for your innocence."

 

[Evil Power Flotzo]

As the Roserade has roleclaimed, so too shall I.

I am the innocent Reviver, and I was the one behind the revival of Shmilbert. To address the claims the slime made towards me, I held off on voting Day 2 on the off chance that I would tie the votes and accidentally cause an innocent member to get lynched. For Day 3, I also held off for similar reasons, that I would be complicit in voting an innocent.

There is very little incentive to have gotten rid of me seeing as I have already used my role power and have reverted to being essentially a vanilla role, so I would like to turn my attention to someone who has repeatedly been gunning for me (going off my roleclaim of course).

Vote: Yoshi the SSM

 

[Glea]

Well, this sounds like we've got a pretty neat setup for the game's conclusion, but looks can be deceiving. I'm going to unvote, vote: YtSSM because he was one of my two primary susses anyhow, and him flipping will tell us just as much as PF would. If YtSSM does flip innocent, especially as reviver, I'm aiming straight for PF next

As a general note, though: I don't want our "outed" two players to feel entirely defeated, Mafia or not. I would still be glad to hear out claims or alternate theories, as contradictory as they may be to what's been established. There's always a chance that one of our claimers today is lying, and if they are lying, it's vital that you help us sort that out. Basically, I just want to encourage you to fight thoroughly, especially if a game loss is on the line!

 

[October Yoshi the SSM]

Flicky: "For what it is worth, you are indeed the role cop."
Knuckles: "Then why didn't you tell me any info."
Flicky: "Because... it failed. And he didn't do it night 2."
Knuckles: "I wasted that role power on that Miller all thanks to that Roserade."
Knuckles: "And how do I know whether or not you are even telling me the truth?"
Flicky: "Umm... You just do?"

Knuckles: "Flicky. That isn't how this game works."

Knuckles: "I am not getting any info out of this bird."

Well, this sounds like we've got a pretty neat setup for the game's conclusion, but looks can be deceiving. I'm going to unvote, vote: YtSSM because he was one of my two primary susses anyhow, and him flipping will tell us just as much as PF would. If YtSSM does flip innocent, especially as reviver, I'm aiming straight for PF next

As a general note, though: I don't want our "outed" two players to feel entirely defeated, Mafia or not. I would still be glad to hear out claims or alternate theories, as contradictory as they may be to what's been established. There's always a chance that one of our claimers today is lying, and if they are lying, it's vital that you help us sort that out. Basically, I just want to encourage you to fight thoroughly, especially if a game loss is on the line!

Knuckles: "You do have a good point. And hopefully, this roleclaim does do something to help you out."

 

[Nathan]

Role Cop? That does seem like an evildoer role, and furthermore, I do not believe us, pure-hearted souls have the blessing of having two powerful investigative roles in the likes of alignment cop and role cop on our side.

Unvote: Power Flotzo

Vote: Yoshi the SSM

If YtSSM does flip innocent, especially as reviver, I'm aiming straight for PF next

While the possibility was there that Mr. Knuckles was innocent (at least before their claim to be the Role Cop), they had admitted they did not revived our Doctor, so in practice, it is impossible for them to have been the Reviver.

If Mr. Knuckles is indeed innocent, then this will leave me utterly astonished.

 

[October Yoshi the SSM]

If Mr. Knuckles is indeed innocent, then this will leave me utterly astonished.

Knuckles: "Mr. Knuckles is indeed innocent. But the thing is, should Yoshi the SSM be mafia, that means that someone else is in the mafia position. You can try to make a guess on who it is. But all I know that it isn't me or Flicky as Flicky is not really smart enough to do this kind of work."

Yoshi the SSM: For clarity, this is just a roleplay fluff. In-universe, Knuckles actually believes that he is innocent.

Knuckles: "Hey! Who is speaking! Show yourself!"

Yoshi the SSM: What? Me? No. I can show myself as a representation. However, I chose you to be my representative here. Meaning I can't fulfill your request.
Knuckles: "Oh. So, you must be Yoshi the SSM. Wait. How does it work? Me being your representative. I am Knuckles, right?"

Yoshi the SSM: "You are Knuckles being played by me. It is called roleplay. It is quite complicated to explain otherwise."
Knuckles: "Ah. I may not completely understand. But at least I got the grasp of it."

 

[Hooded Pitohui]

Vote Tally
Yoshi the SSM (4) - ClawgripFan9001, Power Flotzo, Roserade, Ninja Squid
Ninja Squid (1) - BBQ Turtle

24 hours remain!

 

[Phantom of the BWAH-Pera]

"It appears as though the final day has dawned upon our crimson echidna, as if he had somehow magically appeared in the faraway mystical land of Hyrule during the events of what's known as The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. Which strikes me curious, for Princess Zelda only appears in a flashback in which she teaches the Hero of Time how to use the Ocarina during the events of this legend, so why is the legend named after her, and not the Hero of Time? I apologize for rambling like this, dear investigators, but there's not much else that I can do until the shiver of night befalls upon us once more as things currently stand."

 

[Lee Chaolan]

as if he had somehow magically appeared in the faraway mystical land of Hyrule during the events of what's known as The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask.

um ackshually majora's mask takes place in termina which is considered a distinct separate world from hyrule, possibly being some kind of alternate dimension

this has no bearing on the game please continue

 

[Super Jack Sunshine]

Breaking character for a bit sorry I haven't been very active I had a busy day yesterday ;-;
I don't honestly have much to say on this round's events regardless because it is highly unlikely in my eyes that there would be both a role cop and an alignment cop on the innocent side so I shall Vote: Yoshi the SMM

"Dit ditto."

 

[BBQ Turtle]

Uh... wow, that was electrifying. A lot happened in not a lot of time, huh? I think we've still got a little bit of narrowing down to do, right, so I'll put my thoughts out there too. I'll admit I was still pretty suspicious of the Event Gulpin with what they said at first- it's like they completely missed what I said! But with the prompting from the Roserade, and their claim of being bulletproof, I'm willing to put it down to being an accident, at least for now, so I'll Unvote: Ninja Squid. OK, and then a few more claims have been sparked by the discussion- I think the Roserade as a vigilante makes enough sense, and yeah, as much as the Hariyama was being weirdly quiet, I guess you kind of want to keep a low profile with a valuable role like a reviver- and if you are telling the truth, then you certainly put it to good use, and unintentionally helped me get out of a pinch- I owe you one! Same for you Mr Shmilbert, thanks for helping me clear things up with the others!

So, the Sandslash- I'll admit, you had me worried when you said you didn't have the message- it's a bold strategy, and if you'd made the claim first, or not been up against our doctor, I think I'd have been in some real hot water! It was a pretty cool idea, it just didn't pan out for you I'm afraid. Vote: Yoshi the SSM.

Still not really got anything to go off with the Ditto, but it is pretty cute!

 

[Phantom of the BWAH-Pera]

as much as the Hariyama was being weirdly quiet, I guess you kind of want to keep a low profile with a valuable role like a reviver- and if you are telling the truth, then you certainly put it to good use, and unintentionally helped me get out of a pinch- I owe you one! Same for you Mr Shmilbert, thanks for helping me clear things up with the others!

"You're welcome, I suppose, Mr. Spark. Let's just hope that our assumptions of the crimson echidna being scum end up proving correctly, and if they don't, at least we'll have an idea of where to look next during the following day, based on how the events during the upcoming night end up playing out."

 

[October Yoshi the SSM]

Knuckles: "By the looks of it, it definitely looks like Yoshi the SSM is mafia."

Yoshi the SSM: "Yeah. Also, that thing that Flicky told you guys about BLOF's role usage. You guys will have to find the truth when you visit the mafia chat. But yes, Knuckles is right. I did check Miller last night."

Knuckles: So, Flicky. Now that the truth's out. Tell me who really sent you?"

Flicky: "Is it not obvious?"

Knuckles: "My best guess is that Dr. Eggman is doing this to trick me."
Flicky: "Apparently, it isn't obvious."
Knuckles: "So, not Dr. Eggman. I am not good at these guessing games."
Flicky: "Knuckles. There can be only one person that you know would be involved with thieves."

Knuckles: "Wait. You don't mean... the master of thievery..."

Rouge: "Hello, Knuckles."

Knuckles: "Rouge the Bat!"

Knuckles: "Of course. I see what you mean know. So, you were the one who sent Flicky under false pretenses."
Flicky: "False pretenses. Knuckles. You were sent to be on the innocent side while Rouge worked on the mafia side."

Knuckles: "Well, that doesn't make me feel any better."
Rouge: "Sage Masa. Please escort Knuckles out of here. I am all yours now that the vote has been decided that I should be lynched."
Knuckles: "Hopefully, I get to do one of these again. And if so, hopefully I will not be tricked by a mafian trying to use me as a pawn."

 

[Hooded Pitohui]

Vote Tally
Yoshi the SSM (6) - ClawgripFan9001, Power Flotzo, Roserade, Ninja Squid, Cloudwalker, BBQ Turtle

: How peculiar our situation has become… Nevertheless, the decision is unanimous. I suppose I can escort the deceived out, as you request. Sage Koji, may I-?

: Of course. Please, leave the matter to my hands. Vaporeon, please assist us in bringing down this interloper.

Rogue the Bat (Yoshi the SSM) has fainted! Rogue was…

Spoiler: Yoshi the SSM's Role Card

: A most excellent result. It would appear we have unveiled and eliminated the one responsible for coordinating the actions of the thieves. Through your deductions and careful actions, I believe we have obtained the advantage.

: Be off now for your nightly rest, and let us see if we can bring an end to this ordeal thereafter.

IT IS NOW NIGHT FOUR.

Use this time to privately submit actions to the hosts. You may submit your actions or ask questions in your role PMs. As stated in the lounge thread, night phases will last for 23 hours to allow the hosts time to process night actions.

Night Two ends at Saturday at 11:00 PM .

 

[Glea]

This is great news but it's also bad news because I never once considered a world where the godfather and the role cop were the same player. Now we have a completely unaccounted for mafia role power in the mix. I'm sure that's fine

 

[Phantom of the BWAH-Pera]

"Well, what do you know? Our intuïtions proved us to be right on this one! I would advise all of you to keep your wits about you tonight, for there's one more outlaw amongst our company to uncover, and they're most likely determined to avenge their fallen comrades now that the shiver of night has arrived once more."

 

[Glea]

There's a solid enough chance that I'm dying tonight, so here's some last game thoughts while we roll into day five

Obviously, our eyes are on Cloudwalker next. She still has not given us solid game reasoning for other players, and she was one of the last to join the vote on YtSSM. She also hasn't roleclaimed, and while I don't mean to say that in a rolefishing way, it is true that everyone else has done so and given the appearance of a "solved" game. It would be pretty unfortunate if both replacements ended up bumping into the Mafia team, but that's life sometimes

If Cloudwalker does flip innocent, then it has to be NS. PF would've remained sussed without the reviver claim, but the claim has remained unchallenged and is a specific, visually verified role within the context of the game. NS's bulletproof claim is invisible and unverifiable at this stage, and could be a ploy by a Mafia member that knows the entire field of play at this point. We have the time to go for a Cloudwalker > NS pipeline if we desire, since we'll be on an unoptimistic five and then three

Please be on the lookout for any weirdness tonight and in day 5!! We're past our stage of "standard" Mafia player roles, and I'm not really sure what to expect their last teammate to be capable of. Hopefully it won't be anything too drastic for the numbers game we currently have going but we'll find out when the time comes

 

[Phantom of the BWAH-Pera]

There's a solid enough chance that I'm dying tonight, so here's some last game thoughts while we roll into day five

Obviously, our eyes are on Cloudwalker next. She still has not given us solid game reasoning for other players, and she was one of the last to join the vote on YtSSM. She also hasn't roleclaimed, and while I don't mean to say that in a rolefishing way, it is true that everyone else has done so and given the appearance of a "solved" game. It would be pretty unfortunate if both replacements ended up bumping into the Mafia team, but that's life sometimes

If Cloudwalker does flip innocent, then it has to be NS. PF would've remained sussed without the reviver claim, but the claim has remained unchallenged and is a specific, visually verified role within the context of the game. NS's bulletproof claim is invisible and unverifiable at this stage, and could be a ploy by a Mafia member that knows the entire field of play at this point. We have the time to go for a Cloudwalker > NS pipeline if we desire, since we'll be on an unoptimistic five and then three

Please be on the lookout for any weirdness tonight and in day 5!! We're past our stage of "standard" Mafia player roles, and I'm not really sure what to expect their last teammate to be capable of. Hopefully it won't be anything too drastic for the numbers game we currently have going but we'll find out when the time comes

"Certainly, dear Roserade. Regardless of which one of us doesn't end up surviving the night, we will snuff out the last outlaw standing once the nightmare yields to the breaking dawn, continuing the cycle anew, I assure you."

 

[Hooded Pitohui]

Phase is locked!

We will process your actions shortly.

 

[Hooded Pitohui]

: Regrettably, one among our company has succumbed to the ravages the night. We mustn't wail excessively, for he served well the role he was recalled to play.

Shmilbert (ClawgripFan9001) has has fainted again! ClawgripFan9001 was…

Spoiler: ClawgripFan9001's Role Card

: Hmm…

: What matter troubles you?

: I feel as though… our presence intrudes on the investigations of another… As if another might peer into this shrine while intending to appear elsewhere. An absurdity, of course. The passages in and out are all secured. Carry on with the guests.

: Yes, of course.

: To properly express our gratitude to those struck by these thieves, please, make the most of this daylight. Here, at the foot of the Bell Tower, expose another covetous heart!

IT IS NOW DAY FIVE.

You may use this time to discuss suspicions and to cast votes towards a player's elimination. To place a vote, use the format: "Vote: Player". The player with the most votes at the end of the phase will be eliminated. To vote for no elimination, use the following format: "Vote: No elimination".

Day Five ends at 34 minutes ago .

 

[Nathan]

It seems our poor doctor cannot be granted even a moment of peace, huh? Perhaps it would be best to put an end to the who dare subject them to such torment.

Vote: Cloudwalker

Without having to reiterate the matter, nothing Mr. Ditto has done these past few days has proven of any use to our investigation. Even when pressed by Roserade, Mr. Ditto offered nothing of substance, save for casting his vote against his fellow scoundrel when the latter was already all but assured to be the day's elimination.

Furthermore, if every roles that were claimed thus far are indeed genuine, then Mr. Ditto can only be the culprit.

 

[Evil Power Flotzo]

Osu! Hariyama Deluxe, here to expunge the evil that remains! Not much can be said this round that my amorphous comrade has not, so let us Arm Thrust towards the main attraction.

Vote: Cloudwalker

 

[Glea]

Don't have any new words. Vote: Cloudwalker to see if this wraps things up nicely

 

[BBQ Turtle]

Hey, nice work everyone, we managed to track down another thief! And a powerful one it seems too, having both of those abilities. It really makes you wonder what abilities they have left! They're still on a good run for taking out people who will give us the least info though- it's sad to see Shmilbert go... again... but by taking out the totally confirmed innocent, that gives us the least to work with, and means we're still all in a bit of danger. What a thoughtful way for him to go though, protecting the Roserade! I thought I'd see if a thief would go after the Roserade with any powers they might have left- after all, Roserade has had some great ides- but it looks like that didn't happen. Oh well, looks like my luck with targets hasn't really improved. Well, looks like we've only got one direction to go today- what do you think's going on, little Ditto? Vote: Cloudwalker We're all super amped to hear from you, you've been so quiet- any roles you'd like to claim, or things we might have overlooked? Hearing everyone's opinions gives us the best chance of knowing what's going on!

 

[Hooded Pitohui]

Vote Tally

Cloudwalker (4) - Ninja Squid, Power Flotzo, Roserade, BBQ Turtle

A bit under 24 hours remain!