Do you beleive in Jesus?

[Zero777]

Because God loves to screw with us.

Wow, what an ass. At least Satan can play the fiddle AND electric guitar; How badass is THAT?

If we don't we'll never know what will happen in the future, and we'll not know how to solve it.

What Uniju said; Not necessarily.

So, basically your'e saying you like Satan but not God? Being a Christian means that you believe in God and there's an evil being who want to make us "blind" and there's a Heaven and Hell. And plus I'm not trying to give up a fight, see that is what none believers and aetheist do, they push things they don't want to hear away and they get so angry and negative about it.

 

[Uniju]

I don't think he was quite serious.

 

[Zero777]

Hmmmm, ALright.

 

[Pokemon DP]

I don't like satanists either, since they're also worshipping something that most likely doesn't exist. But several songs I listen to bring up Satan playing instruments really well, so I just go along with it since I'm such an audiophile.

 

[Zero777]

I don't like satanists either, since they're also worshipping something that most likely doesn't exist. But several songs I listen to bring up Satan playing instruments really well, so I just go along with it since I'm such an audiophile.

Oh, Ok, I get it.

 

[Aiko Heiwa]

Damn I wish I was a mod so I could lock this topic.

 

[Pokemon DP]

And plus I'm not trying to give up a fight, see that is what none believers and aetheist do, they push things they don't want to hear away and they get so angry and negative about it.

Also, I don't like your tone about atheists. How can you say we're the only ones 'forcing our beliefs' when you keep on going on about how god definitely exists and that he's everlasting but we can never understand so we're obviously wrong and you're right? At least I can register the possibility that god MIGHT exist.

 

[Zero777]

And plus I'm not trying to give up a fight, see that is what none believers and aetheist do, they push things they don't want to hear away and they get so angry and negative about it.

Also, I don't like your tone about atheists. How can you say we're the only ones 'forcing our beliefs' when you keep on going on about how god definitely exists and that he's everlasting but we can never understand so we're obviously wrong and you're right? At least I can register the possibility that god MIGHT exist.

UMMMMMmmmmm, hmmmm, ah, everybody is wrong and right and some times, so we can say that I was wrong. And I meant the ones who get all out of control and angry not every single one.

 

[Pokemon DP]

OK than, cool.

 

[ScarecrowPerson]

[quote author=Scarecrow von Steuben]lolooolololololol gays are sooooo evilll

Such practices are forbidden by the New Testament as well.

And do you know why that is? They forbade homosexuality during that time because they needed kids- the world population was very low- and men having sex with men didn't produce kids. These days, however, the world population is high, so I don't see why God would care anymore. You say that "God is unchanging"- well, God may be unchanging, but he adapts to the situation. He can forbid something at one time for a good reason, then allow it later when the law is no longer necessary. I'm not saying that God changed from hating gays to loving gays, I'm saying that God loved gays all along, but back then, if everyone was gay there would be very few children. These days, it doesn't matter.

See what I mean? Unlike you, I combine logic with spirituality instead of blindly following spirituality and not bothering to wonder why homosexuality was forbidden.

So, God destroyed a huge city just because they weren't producing kids?
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No, he did it because the people inside were rapists and killers.

And you're saying that a God who had provided for his people so many times before would have us around for him to manipulate?

And you're saying that a God who loves his children would have murdered people for something they can't control?

On your other point. logic and sprituality don't mix. "Logic" is what the world believs, spirituality is what christians (and catholics, ect.) believe.

No, logic is what makes sense, spirituality is what doesn't. Who's to say that spirituality isn't logical in its own way?

Answer me this: If you were God, would you ban homosexuality?

 

[Aiko Heiwa]

[quote author=Scarecrow von Steuben]lolooolololololol gays are sooooo evilll

Such practices are forbidden by the New Testament as well.

And do you know why that is? They forbade homosexuality during that time because they needed kids- the world population was very low- and men having sex with men didn't produce kids. These days, however, the world population is high, so I don't see why God would care anymore. You say that "God is unchanging"- well, God may be unchanging, but he adapts to the situation. He can forbid something at one time for a good reason, then allow it later when the law is no longer necessary. I'm not saying that God changed from hating gays to loving gays, I'm saying that God loved gays all along, but back then, if everyone was gay there would be very few children. These days, it doesn't matter.

See what I mean? Unlike you, I combine logic with spirituality instead of blindly following spirituality and not bothering to wonder why homosexuality was forbidden.

So, God destroyed a huge city just because they weren't producing kids?

No, he did it because the people inside were rapists and killers.

And you're saying that a God who had provided for his people so many times before would have us around for him to manipulate?

And you're saying that a God who loves his children would have murdered people for something they can't control?

On your other point. logic and sprituality don't mix. "Logic" is what the world believs, spirituality is what christians (and catholics, ect.) believe.

No, logic is what makes sense, spirituality is what doesn't. Who's to say that spirituality isn't logical in its own way?

Answer me this: If you were God, would you ban homosexuality?
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No, I would zap people for the lulz.

 

[Smiddle]

What does 'banning homosexuality as a god' mean? Does it mean preventing homosexuality from occuring? I myself don't see any harm to have a world with no homosexuality.

 

[SmartGuy]

everybody is wrong and right

Is everyone also naked and clothed?

 

[Uniju]

If pornography has taught me anything(besides the fact that there is it of everything), it's that you can be clothed and naked at the same time.

 

[Aiko Heiwa]

If pornography has taught me anything(besides the fact that there is it of everything), it's that you can be clothed and naked at the same time.

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Also, I wish I was God.

But I'd have to kill Uniju

 

[Uniju]

But I'd have to kill Uniju

Which is impossible, because I'm god.

 

[ScarecrowPerson]

What does 'banning homosexuality as a god' mean? Does it mean preventing homosexuality from occuring? I myself don't see any harm to have a world with no homosexuality.

'Banning homosexuality' as in 'condemning gays to hell for something that isn't their fault'.

 

[Luigifreak]

What does 'banning homosexuality as a god' mean? Does it mean preventing homosexuality from occuring? I myself don't see any harm to have a world with no homosexuality.

'Banning homosexuality' as in 'condemning gays to hell for something that isn't their fault'.

Erm.... no. In the bible, he states several times that really nothing you can do gets you into hell automatically. And if he stated to them explicitly that homozexuality is a no-no, how is it their fault??

 

[Aiko Heiwa]

Even though I don't believe in the Christian God, (I do believe that Uniju is God, because that makes me Jesus 2) but doesn't the Christian God love everyone?

So wouldn't he love gays and the terrorists? Remember, he loves them, not what they do.

 

[Zero777]

Even though I don't believe in the Christian God, (I do believe that Uniju is God, because that makes me Jesus 2) but doesn't the Christian God love everyone?

So wouldn't he love gays and the terrorists? Remember, he loves them, not what they do.

Well he does love them but he love them as they are his kids (technically everybody is), but when they go to hell........ well I'm not sure if God will still love them or will hate them or will cry over them.

 

[Luigifreak]

Even though I don't believe in the Christian God, (I do believe that Uniju is God, because that makes me Jesus 2) but doesn't the Christian God love everyone?

So wouldn't he love gays and the terrorists? Remember, he loves them, not what they do.

Well he does love them but he love them as they are his kids (technically everybody is), but when they go to hell........ well I'm not sure if God will still love them or will hate them or will cry over them.

He does love gays and terrorists, like you said. And if he sends them to hell, it's just like a father punishing his son: dissapointing but nessicary.

 

[Zero777]

Even though I don't believe in the Christian God, (I do believe that Uniju is God, because that makes me Jesus 2) but doesn't the Christian God love everyone?

So wouldn't he love gays and the terrorists? Remember, he loves them, not what they do.

Well he does love them but he love them as they are his kids (technically everybody is), but when they go to hell........ well I'm not sure if God will still love them or will hate them or will cry over them.

He does love gays and terrorists, like you said. And if he sends them to hell, it's just like a father punishing his son: dissapointing but nessicary.

Ok, yea, I can sort of agree with that but I don't know any father who made there knids burn for the rest of eternity as a punishment.

 

[Uniju]

Actually, I hear science proved that corporal punishment makes children grow up to be stupider on average.

 

[SmartGuy]

Even though I don't believe in the Christian God, (I do believe that Uniju is God, because that makes me Jesus 2) but doesn't the Christian God love everyone?

So wouldn't he love gays and the terrorists? Remember, he loves them, not what they do.

Well he does love them but he love them as they are his kids (technically everybody is), but when they go to hell........ well I'm not sure if God will still love them or will hate them or will cry over them.

Yeah, he loves them so much that when the Jews, Gypsies, among others, were being killed, gassed, and exterminated in Concentration camps, and when the Armenians (who were largely Christian) were starved and massacred in the desert, he just sits back and watches as they all get killed.

I know you're probably going to bring free will into the argument but think about this, those people who were being killed were not free, they were at the mercy of their murderers, they could do almost nothing to help themselves, so they did not have free will, if god really wanted them to have free will he would have helped them.

 

[Smiddle]

Actually, I hear science proved that corporal punishment makes children grow up to be stupider on average.

There's an easy way to take measures against such atrocities. Corporal punishment is the answer!