Yapyap said:
That doesn't really relate to my argument of "You can build something amazing and fun by taking inspiration from an established thing and putting your own spin on it", so... ?
Like, if you're saying that there can never be a game that builds upon the potential of TTYD and potentially surpass it, then that is an incredibly narrow mindset.
thats not really my point, to many rpg gamers, ttyd has been long surpassed before it even came out.
TTyd maybe fun to rpg newbies or just people that venture into the mario rpgs, but comparing them to various other rpgs out there, they're nothing more then basic gameplay and funny stories.
To an experienced rpg player, they're limited, and the story telling doesnt exactly go to far, as most of the time its just to have a laugh or two at the dialogue.
I mean if you like it fine, but mario rpgs have already been surprassed for years, because mario rpgs really exist to cause some laughs or cater to rpg newbies.
There is little variety to mario rpgs in general, most people really only exist to return for the funny dialogue or the parodies that exist in them. Gameplay wise they're limited in many ways and there is really no reason to experiment in mario rpgs either because you're most often not getting any new challenge by experimenting, mario rpgs are so easy in so many ways that experimenting with badges and moves and stuff like that doesnt even matter, because you dont really feel any different and with that in mind; the only real reason is to return to the story.
And even that has limitations, you dont change anything in the story, there are like no alternate endings from the games i played, you dont really change the world around you with every playthrough, the story doesnt change and the characters dont change either, yeah you could do side quests but you can do that every time. Theres also little to nothing that moves you to complete the story either, they're not emotional, they're not impactful, they're just little fun stories that you laugh at.
I dont mean to sound insulting or anything but, mario rpgs and mario rpg fans are in very little minority and mario rpgs themselves are very basic and limited in every way, with that, there is no reason to replicate or be inspired by mario rpgs, because there are so many rpgs out there that go so far beyond the likes of mario rpgs themselves.
Basically if you like mario rpgs thats fine, but as far as big rpg gamers go, mario rpgs have long been surpassed for a very long time, and with such they dont really inspire much since theres little reason to be inspired to begin with, they're fun for mario fans, maybe for a few times, but mario rpgs are so basic in every way, once again, have no need to inspire anything, because they really exist to just be a start.
I mean sorry if you like mario rpgs but, they really dont do much new or at least not impressive enough to inspire, and thats what im trying to say.