Smash Bros. Character/Roster Merit

The problem with your logic in Daisy moveset potential is:
Your suggestion for a basic spinoff moveset would be literally scraping the bottom of the barrel in moveset. Daisy has an identity that you don't seem to realize. Unlike Waluigi who just so happens to be Luigi's Wario, Daisy is more than just Luigi's peach both in terms of personality and abilities. She has been very well developed through the spinoffs to the point of arguably having more personality than Bowser Jr even. And she'd be useful to complete a character square existant in canon that has existed 3/4 since Melee.
 
3D Player 2004 said:
The problem with your logic in Daisy moveset potential is:
Your suggestion for a basic spinoff moveset would be literally scraping the bottom of the barrel in moveset. Daisy has an identity that you don't seem to realize. Unlike Waluigi who just so happens to be Luigi's Wario, Daisy is more than just Luigi's peach both in terms of personality and abilities. She has been very well developed through the spinoffs to the point of arguably having more personality than Bowser Jr even. And she'd be useful to complete a character square existant in canon that has existed 3/4 since Melee.
First of all, are you suggesting that Mario spinoffs have a plot, let alone one with Daisy having a role in it?

Second of all, why do you keep making up character shapes?
 
Just because Daisy has moveset potential doesn't mean Nintendo is going to waste money creating it to put in a character a majority of the fanbase hates.
 
Meloetta said:
Just because Daisy has moveset potential doesn't mean Nintendo is going to waste money creating it to put in a character a majority of the fanbase hates.
This is sadly why Tingle will never be playable.

He's more important to Zelda than Skull Kid or Midna. After Impa, he's the most logical Zelda character.

3D Player 2004 said:
The problem with your logic in Daisy moveset potential is:
Your suggestion for a basic spinoff moveset would be literally scraping the bottom of the barrel in moveset. Daisy has an identity that you don't seem to realize. Unlike Waluigi who just so happens to be Luigi's Wario, Daisy is more than just Luigi's peach both in terms of personality and abilities. She has been very well developed through the spinoffs to the point of arguably having more personality than Bowser Jr even. And she'd be useful to complete a character square existant in canon that has existed 3/4 since Melee.
Personality means jack shit in Smash Bros.
 
Meloetta said:
Just because Daisy has moveset potential doesn't mean Nintendo is going to waste money creating it to put in a character a majority of the fanbase hates.
You are not correct how many people dislike Daisy. She actually has a bigger fanbase than hatebase. When I played Mario Kart Wii online, I always saw more Daisy than any other Character.
 
3D Player 2004 said:
Meloetta said:
Just because Daisy has moveset potential doesn't mean Nintendo is going to waste money creating it to put in a character a majority of the fanbase hates.
You are not correct how many people dislike Daisy.

Even if Daisy isn't that hated. There's not that many that actually want her in Smash other then a particular section of the Mario fanbase. Everyone else either doesn't want Daisy because there's already enough Mario characters and/or there are better and much more important Mario characters to choose from.
 
Northern Verve said:
3D Player 2004 said:
Meloetta said:
Just because Daisy has moveset potential doesn't mean Nintendo is going to waste money creating it to put in a character a majority of the fanbase hates.
You are not correct how many people dislike Daisy.

Even if Daisy isn't that hated. There's not that many that actually want her in Smash other then a particular section of the Mario fanbase. Everyone else either doesn't want Daisy because there's already enough Mario characters and/or there are better and much more important Mario characters to choose from.

except neither of these statements are true. She is the only non-generic character who both has appeared in over half of all Mario Karts and isn't in Smash. It is time to change the not in Smash part. Daisy is 5/8. Rosalina is 3/8. Wario is 7/8. Bowser is 8/10 Peach is 7/8. Mario is 8/8. Luigi is 8/8. Yoshi is 8/8. Donkey Kong is 7/8. Diddy Kong is 2/8.
 
How many games a character appeared in has nothing to do with getting in Smash. The Ice Climbers only appeared in one game before Melee, and look what happened.
 
Number of games a character is in =/= Merit for Smash.

I don't see why you can't realize that.
 
3D Player 2004 said:
except neither of these statements are true. She is the only non-generic character who both has appeared in over half of all Mario Karts and isn't in Smash. It is time to change the not in Smash part. Daisy is 5/8. Rosalina is 3/8. Wario is 7/8. Bowser is 8/10 Peach is 7/8. Mario is 8/8. Luigi is 8/8. Yoshi is 8/8. Donkey Kong is 7/8. Diddy Kong is 2/8.

Mario Spin-Offs aren't supposed to be in conjunction with Smash. It just so happens that alot of the characters has earned the merit they've gained on their own. They didn't need the Spin-offs to help them get in Smash cause they've already earned it. Even Rosalina as much as I kinda criticized her still makes more sense then Daisy because she's a representative of a major Mario game that was successful in the Wii era. And her unique puppeteer moveset also helps her even more. Daisy's best bet for her moveset to not be based on the Spin-offs is if it came out of Super Mario Land, which wouldn't make as much sense since Daisy was just the Damsel-in-Distress in the game that you had to save. And Smash Bros. doesn't seem to really rely too much on the Land series anyway. Wario's Moveset is more random and quirky in relation to the WarioWare games rather then the Wario Land games. So Daisy's best bet is a spin-off related moveset, which as I pointed out, does not bode well for her.

Tell me 3D Player. Why does Daisy deserve to be in Smash? Oh and try to respond without resorting to imaginary "Character squares, circles, triangles, etc." to be the sole reason why she does.