SSB Wii U & 3DS big-time rumor

Smashgoom202 said:
To give you a good idea, this was leaked January 10, 2014. Here's all the information that was translated:

Rosalina is the only Mario newcomer.
Waluigi and Toad were at once considered, but Waluigi remains an Assist Trophy, and Toad a move for Peach.
Bowser Junior, Paper Mario and Daisy were never considered. Bowser Junior was planned to be an Assist Trophy, but was scrapped.
Fawful is a new Mario Assist Trophy. He acts like Mr. Resetti, but will attack opponents at random.
Diddy Kong will be the next revealed veteran, to coincide with Tropical Freeze’s release date.
Diddy is paired with Dixie Kong as a tag-team, similar to Zelda and Sheik. Dixie has a separate moveset from Diddy, but it’s still being worked on.
King K. Rool is a newcomer, the heaviest character on the roster. He is powerful and can KO light characters with 2 good Smash Attacks. His final smash has him use the blunderbuss and fire cannonballs from the top of the screen while they fly in from the sides as well.
Gangplank Galleon is a stage.
There is a new Zelda character, although it’s kept a secret so far. The names heard most often are Tingle and Ghirahim.
Ganondorf will be buffed, although he still retains some of C. Falcon’s moves. He can equip a sword using his Down Special.
Chrom is a Fire Emblem necomer. He wields the Falchion, and does not replace Ike.
Chrom is expected to be revealed to celebrate the anniversary of the first Fire Emblem.
Lyn’s Assist Trophy from Brawl has been scrapped.
King Gangrel and Aversa are the new Fire Emblem Assist Trophy. Gangrel runs around slicing with his sword, while Aversa flies above using Aversa’s Night. They are the “unexpected” Assist Trophy.
No newcomers for Yoshi or Wario.
Wario’s overalls are now his default attire.
The Kat & Ana Assist Trophy has been scrapped.
Ashley from WarioWare is a new Assist Trophy.
Ridley is a newcomer, and is scaled down a bit. It was a major feat on the development team.
No new Star Fox characters.
Falco is farther away from being a Fox clone.
Wolf is no longer a semi-clone.
Villager has a female costume.
Mr. Resetti returns as an Assist Trophy.
Tom Nook is a new Assist Trophy. He apparently drops bells across the stage, which causes opponents to trip. (Due to Sakurai saying tripping is removed, it’s unknown if forced tripping, like this and Diddy’s bananas will return, or if only accidental tripping is removed.)
Palutena is a newcomer, with her moves based directly off Uprising.
Magnus is a new Assist Trophy, and acts similarly to Little Mac in Brawl.
All Pokemon veterans from Brawl return.
Mewtwo returns.
Mewtwo and Lucario have very different movesets.
No new Kirby characters.
Meta Knight will be revealed sometime in the summer of 2014.
No changes made to the EarthBound series.
All misc. characters return (Mr. Game & Watch, R.O.B., Ice Climbers)
Little Mac is a newcomer. He has the look from the Punch-Out!! reboot for the Wii.
The Male Wii Fit Trainer is indeed an alt. for Wii Fit Trainer.
Wii Fit Trainer has a butt attack. It is replaced by a headbutt for the male costume.
King Hippo is an Assist Trophy.
The Ghosts from Luigi’s Mansion are an Assist Trophy.
Snake returns.
Pac-Man will be the final newcomer. He is a secret character.
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Well, they didn't mention Reggie as a newcomer. Hmmmm...
 
Xpike said:
The babies are coming back for Mario Kart 8 because Nintendo needs to pad the rooster.
If you care about what amounts to taking the Muppet Babies idea and applying it to Mario characters but without any real...character put into them, then it's fine by me, but I'd doubt "trophies for the babies" are high on the Smash dev checklist
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Yeah, right. That's what you think. It could have been easier for Nintendo to not put them in if padding was in their mind.

And are you seriously talking about character in Mario characters. I mean seriously? Does Nintendo honestly care if the characters have personality if they are making them trophies? I think relevance comes to mind first. They don't care otherwise. They can make whatever character they want into trophies.
 
Baby Luigi said:
Xpike said:
The babies are coming back for Mario Kart 8 because Nintendo needs to pad the rooster.
If you care about what amounts to taking the Muppet Babies idea and applying it to Mario characters but without any real...character put into them, then it's fine by me, but I'd doubt "trophies for the babies" are high on the Smash dev checklist
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Yeah, right. That's what you think. It could have been easier for Nintendo to not put them in if padding was in their mind.

And are you seriously talking about character in Mario characters. I mean seriously? Does Nintendo honestly care if the characters have personality if they are making them trophies? I think relevance comes to mind first. They don't care otherwise. They can make whatever character they want into trophies.
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Going along with Baby Luigi, they did have trophies for Baby Mario and (iirc) Baby Luigi in both Brawl and Melee.

And I agree with BLOF that just because you don't care about them doesn't mean that others feel the same way about you. I can name a lot of people that love the babies. Maybe not as their favorite, but up there.
 
Cirdec said:
Fake for me, it makes no sense Waluigi would have been considered while Daisy wasn't.
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I think there is some sense in thinking of Waluigi for Smash before Daisy. But I believe all of this is kinda fruitless after Rosalina was chosen.

Regardless though, I fully expect Waluigi to return as an Assist Trophy. And Daisy likely once again relegated to an alt. color scheme for Peach and in the Trophy gallery.
 
Northern Verve said:
Cirdec said:
Fake for me, it makes no sense Waluigi would have been considered while Daisy wasn't.
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I think there is some sense in thinking of Waluigi for Smash before Daisy. But I believe all of this is kinda fruitless after Rosalina was chosen.

Regardless though, I fully expect Waluigi to return as an Assist Trophy. And Daisy likely once again relegated to an alt. color scheme for Peach and in the Trophy gallery.
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No, Waluigi never made appearance in a Wario game and has the same situation situation as Daisy, moreover he has less appearance than her. He wasn't even in MK7.
 
Anna said:
Going along with Baby Luigi, they did have trophies for Baby Mario and (iirc) Baby Luigi in both Brawl and Melee.
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Baby Luigi had exactly zero trophies. All he had was a tiny sticker and it's him with Luigi
 
Cirdec said:
Northern Verve said:
Cirdec said:
Fake for me, it makes no sense Waluigi would have been considered while Daisy wasn't.
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I think there is some sense in thinking of Waluigi for Smash before Daisy. But I believe all of this is kinda fruitless after Rosalina was chosen.

Regardless though, I fully expect Waluigi to return as an Assist Trophy. And Daisy likely once again relegated to an alt. color scheme for Peach and in the Trophy gallery.
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No, Waluigi never made appearance in a Wario game and has the same situation situation as Daisy, moreover he has less appearance than her. He wasn't even in MK7.
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slightly less appearance than daisy

they're both at about the bottom tier of "people who appear but don't have games of their own"
 
If Waluigi and Daisy can't even make a tiny appearance in a Mario platforming game, what makes you expect they'll have priority over characters such as Toad or Bowser Jr.?