Pokemon X and Pokemon Y

Fighter Zae said:
now lets debate how horrible hms are

well aside from surf and waterfall.

...and maybe defog? not sure about that one.
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Fly: takes you to any Pokémon Center you've already been to. Huge time saver. Also, 90 power+95% Accuracy.

Strength: Not the best move, but it's good for softening up your opponents if you can't take them down in one hit and in some cases, it can do such a thing.

I'm not fond of Rock Climb due to how gimmicky it is. I hate having to fight Team Galactic and a Giratina with a Level 6 Machop in my party.
 
yeah but fly can be interupted by certain moves, and its a two turn move.

I really hate two turn moves.

Unless sun is out and solar beam will be used pretty often.

Strength is okay i guess but i usually use return anyway so yeah.

and yeah rock climb just sucks.
 
The problem with fly is that your opponent can just switch into a rock type who resists the attack.

Of course, the CPUs are dumb so you can use it against them.
 
Fighter Zae said:
yeah but fly can be interupted by certain moves, and its a two turn move.

I really hate two turn moves.

Unless sun is out and solar beam will be used pretty often.

Strength is okay i guess but i usually use return anyway so yeah.

and yeah rock climb just sucks.
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Sometimes I use strength to replace tackle or something of the like.
 
GalacticPetey said:
The problem with fly is that your opponent can just switch into a rock type who resists the attack.

Of course, the CPUs are dumb so you can use it against them.
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True i guess, cpus are pretty laughable, unless its a 54 hydreigon.
 
I still can't find it (Cut HM)........

Am I looking in the right southwest? My loss of sense of direction has seemed to import into Pokémon.......
 
Rin Kagamine said:
I still can't find it (Cut HM)........

Am I looking in the right southwest? My loss of sense of direction has seemed to import into Pokémon.......
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As soon as you cross the bridge in the backyard, turn left and go up. You should see the HM.
 
Okay, thanks! I finally found it!

....Though I wasn't even in the right place to begin with....
 
Rin Kagamine said:
I still can't find it (Cut HM)........

Am I looking in the right southwest? My loss of sense of direction has seemed to import into Pokémon.......
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It's in some garden with hedges, IIRC.
 
Doctor Walter Bishop said:
So I'm thinking about putting a Kabutops in the slot where my Torterra was.

I love ol' Anthony, but I don't really have a use for him.
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Well just beware of kabutops rather sluggish speed and not so good defensive typing.

Although if you do have rain on your team kabutops is scary as hell.

I like'm though so i say go for it.