Who's the better trainer. Red or Ash?

[EctoBiologist]

RED

BLUE

YELLOW

GREEN

GOLD

SILVER

CRYSTAL

RUBY

SAPPHIRE

EMERALD

LEAFGREEN

FIRERED

PEARL

DIAMOND

Platinum

HEARTGOLD

SOULSILVER

 

[Raiko Horikawa]

Guys, knock it off with the quote mountain.

 

[EctoBiologist]

but were almost finished.

only black and white left and that's it.

 

[Specific Neptune]

Guys, knock it off with the quote mountain.

Finally

 

[NotABannableOffense]

but were almost finished.

only black and white left and that's it.

And Black2/White2

 

[Specific Neptune]

Do it

I want to see blocky's reaction when he realises that you disobeyed him.

 

[NotABannableOffense]

Spoiler: OMG! Look at this quote mountain.

 

[Soundless Voice]

Spoiler: OMG! Look at this quote mountain.

Broken

 

[NotABannableOffense]

Works for me.

Its a picture of a mountain with a quote captioned onto it.

 

[Toad Eightyfive]

but were almost finished.

only black and white left and that's it.

Don't forget the Stadium and Colosseum games, plus all those godforsaken spinoffs.

also BLACK.

 

[Specific Neptune]

Just do it!

Doitdoitdoit!!!!!

 

[Windy]

Ash?
Ashley and Red???

 

[marioman1213]

It's no duh. Ash's Pikachu could be beat by one move of Red's Snorlax.

 

[MCS]

i'm not a big Pokemon junkie, so excuse the noob question, but why is Red so much better than Ash

 

[Gumball Machine]

Well, Red's in the Pokemon manga, which I've never read, so I don't really know why he's better than Ash.

Although Ash tends to have made some very stupid mistakes in the original Pokemon seasons like trying to capture Pidgeotto (a bird) with his Caterpie (a caterpillar). Then Ash uses Pikachu which is what he should've done in the first place. Misty chews him out for using a bug against a flying type "Birds eat bugs, Mr. Pokemon Master!".

And whenever he battles another trainer like a gym leader, he usually purposefully puts himself at a disadvantage. Even though it is possible for a disadvantaged Pokemon to win, it's still not a bright idea.

Also, even though Ash does fairly well in the Pokemon League tournaments, he always ends up losing. He's only won once during the Orange Islands.

Ash did get better in Hoenn and Sinnoh, but starting with Unova, he reverted back to his dumbass self in the original season.

 

[MCS]

I see. I'd rather hear why Red is so good as well, compared to Ash, not just Ash's faults; but thanks for your input.

Speaking of Pokemon, I haven't touched my Platinum in months.

 

[Red Barchetta]

Red is the main male protagonist in Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow/LeafGreen/FireRed. He also appears in Gold/Silver/Crystal(?, not sure, don't have it)/HeartGold/SoulSilver as one of the final battles of the games and one of the most significant battles in the entire series.

 

[Gumball Machine]

Red is the main male protagonist in Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow/LeafGreen/FireRed. He also appears in Gold/Silver/Crystal(?, not sure, don't have it)/HeartGold/SoulSilver as one of the final battles of the games and one of the most significant battles in the entire series.

Yes, he's in Crystal. Although I think everyone's talking about Red from the manga, not the one you control in the games.

 

[NotABannableOffense]

Red is better because he is actually a component trainer who aclomplishes his goals. As opposed to Ash, who wants to be a master and catch them all but doesn't make a very good effort of it.

 

[GalacticPetey]

Red also single handily took down Team Rocket. Ash can't even defeat two grunts and a meowth.

 

[User4042]

I see. I'd rather hear why Red is so good as well, compared to Ash, not just Ash's faults

and that is a summary of red from the manga

the more detailed version: http://www.serebii.net/manga/characters-new/red.shtml