Star Wars in General (Movies, Shows, Books, Games, etc.)

Favorite Star Wars Movie(/s)?

  • Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith

    Votes: 4 11.4%
  • Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope

    Votes: 2 5.7%
  • Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

    Votes: 9 25.7%
  • Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi

    Votes: 4 11.4%
  • Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens

    Votes: 5 14.3%
  • All of Them. Can't Pick a Favorite

    Votes: 6 17.1%
  • Only Original Trilogy

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Only Prequel Trilogy

    Votes: 2 5.7%
  • Only Sequel Trilogy

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    35
Princess Zae said:
story is too stupid in star wars for me to consider anything canon
The plot of the (original) movies was good. The plot of the Thrawn trilogy was great.

The plots of the games are usually rather meh but hey, we get awesome characters like Kyle Katarn and Delta Squad out of them. And Republic Commando's story wasn't too bad.
 
Dr. Javelin said:
Princess Zae said:
story is too stupid in star wars for me to consider anything canon
The plot of the (original) movies was good. The plot of the Thrawn trilogy was great.

The plots of the games are usually rather meh but hey, we get awesome characters like Kyle Katarn and Delta Squad out of them. And Republic Commando's story wasn't too bad.

well its still pretty goofy and how jedi's are pretty much just magic space ninjas is hilarious.

Although the plots in the games can be good such as the old republic series, but in things like republic commando and the jedi outcast series... not so much.
 
Republic Commando's story wasn't really supposed to be a story about the universe. It's just supposed to be a story of the Clone Wars told from four elite soldier's perspective. And that it was, and it was done well.

Jedi Outcast was pretty laughable though. BUT IT HAS KYLE KATARN, WHO IS THE STAR WARS EQUIVALENT OF CHUCK NORRIS
 
Dr. Javelin said:
Republic Commando's story wasn't really supposed to be a story about the universe. It's just supposed to be a story of the Clone Wars told from four elite soldier's perspective. And that it was, and it was done well.

Jedi Outcast was pretty laughable though. BUT IT HAS KYLE KATARN, WHO IS THE STAR WARS EQUIVALENT OF CHUCK NORRIS

well the character you create in star wars jedi outcast 3 or whatever was actually more powerful then even kyle.

But i admit i liked kyle katarn quite a bit and it really shows you that just because you dont follow the jedi code completely doesnt mean you're just an entity of the dark side.

I personally think the plots are laughable in jedi outcast games, but the quality of the characters seems to be really nice.
 
Yeah I really enjoyed in Jedi Outcast how using Dark side powers didn't automatically turn Kyle into a monster. I like the whole duality idea, where just because you use "evil powers" doesn't make you evil.

Kyle Katarn basically says "screw you, yoda. the dark side didn't forever dominate my destiny.". Which is good.
 
Dr. Javelin said:
Yeah I really enjoyed in Jedi Outcast how using Dark side powers didn't automatically turn Kyle into a monster. I like the whole duality idea, where just because you use "evil powers" doesn't make you evil.

Kyle Katarn basically says "screw you, yoda. the dark side didn't forever dominate my destiny.". Which is good.

oh its really bad in the old republic series

the jedi mind literally focuses on no emotion, marriage, or something like that due to the fact that its apparently a tool of the dark side.

Really goes to show you both the light and dark side can be on equal grounds when it comes to being fucked up.

this is even more seen in star wars the old republic as the republic will actually torture their enemies to death or where the empire will actually spare living beings.

Kinda makes you think a bit.
 
Which is why I prefer Luke Skywalker's New Jedi Order to the Republic's Jedi Order. Skywalker's leaves room for emotions such as compassion and love instead of requiring members to basically become monks.
 
Dr. Javelin said:
Which is why I prefer Luke Skywalker's New Jedi Order to the Republic's Jedi Order. Skywalker's leaves room for emotions such as compassion and love instead of requiring members to basically become monks.

yeah i can agree on that at least, sadly this is only ever seen in like the games and eu.
 
"I think he is typing up a post."

...

"That's no post... it's a space station..."

"It's too big to be a space station."

"...You're right, it's just a really long post."



I only regard the original trilogy as canon, and the expanded universe material as things that COULD have happened, but don't necessarily have to and not necessarily in that exact way.

What I like about the original trilogy is that it is pretty effective in what it tells you and what it omits. It gives you just enough input to keep you invested in the story, but still leaves enough unclear to allow you to fill in the blanks. If you look at the movies with that in mind, you can actually discover some neat things.

For example, there's actually some fancy symbolism going on with the lightsabers in that trilogy. They're basically a visual cue for the progression of the characters. Luke starts out with the blue lightsaber he inherited from his father. The blue lightsaber represents the ideals of his jedi father before he became Darth Vader. Luke looks up to those ideals and so he wields his father's old weapon proudly.

Darth Vader one held up these ideals as well (illustrated by how the blue lightsaber once belonged to him), but he discarded them for the dark side. He starts using a red lightsaber, basically a corrupted form of his original weapon, symbolizing the corruption of his ideals.

Then in episode 2, Luke and Vader meet in battle. Luke confronts Vader, their ideals clash (literally, because this is a lightsaber battle), and because Luke lacks the maturity and conviction to accurately represent his ideals, Vader remains unfazed and wins. He then reveals to be Luke's father. Luke just breaks down. Everything he believed about his father and what he stands for has been a lie. He can no longer look up to his father. The ideals he tried to hold up just shatter, and to help cement that fact, this is also when his lightsaber is destroyed/lost.

Then comes episode 3. Luke has completed his jedi training and is much more secure than he has ever been. He has risen above the shame of his father, the betrayals of his old ideals. Luke has formed his own identity, reminiscent but independent of his father's. To visually represent this change, he now wields a green lightsaber, a weapon reminiscent but distinct from his father's. And in the end it is that identity, his own ideals, that allow him to redeem his father and destroy the empire.

Then a bunch of shit with Ewoks happens, buuut.... let's just ignore that!

Anyway, there is such a simple brilliance in that negligible detail, it's amazing if this was intentional. And it only works because the original trilogy is such a tightly self-contained story. This in turn is the reason why I am annoyed that outside of the original movies, red and green lightsabers are popping up everywhere. No! Bad! Those lightsabers are relevant to the characters that use them! If you put them everywhere in the hands of everyone, they lose their meaning :'(

Sometimes less is just more in the long run.