Idea for SSB4 - Interchangable B Movesets (Somewhat confirmed?)

SonicMario

Star Spirit
EDIT: Before you judge, I made this thread in a time SSB4 was not confirmed. So just a warning with some of my talk here. The 15th post is an update on this thread as I will no longer be updating characters like I said here

Hey everyone, I just thought of cool dream thing if another Smash game: Interchangable B Movesets

You may be asking what I mean by that but anyway I'll explain it. For the purpose of this being the Mario Wiki and needing a character that has not had his moveset changed in all 3 of the games. Let's pull out good ol' Luigi here

In both Melee and Brawl of course, Luigi has the Fireball, Green Missile, Tornado Spin, and the Coin Jump.
Now to tell you what the interchangable movesets think of 4 other moves for Luigi that are possible for special moves. Like maybe another B down for a Vaccum from Luigi's Mansion (Would be the opposite of Mario's FLUDD, bringing your foes to you for A combos), a new B side could be a ice throw (When Ice Luigi or Penguins Suit in NSMB Wii), his 2nd neutral B move being Thunderhand from M&L SuperStar saga, and the 2nd B up being the Power Squat from SMB2 (Both Mario and Peach could also have this)

The goal of the moveset is to give more choice to the player. And some characters may have a new move that made a projectile reliant character into a physical machine or a fighter that could need the desperate need of a side-projectile. Anyway let's check on if this thing were implemented and you were choosing Luigi's Moveset would be

LUIGI

B Special Attack
FIREBALL (Type: Short Range Projectile)
THUNDERHAND (Type: Close-range Physical)

B Up
SUPER JUMP PUNCH (Close-range Physical)
POWER SQUAT JUMP (Close-range Physical)

B Side
GREEN MISSILE (Long-Range Physical)
ICE THROW (Short Range Projectile)

B Down
LUIGI CYCLONE (Short Range Physical)
POLTURGUST 5000 (Long Range Special)

By the way it's set up the attacks now have types toward them. The following types here are:
Close-range Physical (EX: Falcon Punch)
Long-range Physical (EX: Pikachu's Skull Bash)
Close-range Projectile (EX: Mario/Luigi's Fireballs)
Long-range Projectile (EX: Samus's Missile)
Long-range Special* (EX: Mario's FLUDD)
Close-range Special (EX: ???)

*Special means as in a attack that has an effect that's neither Physical nor a projectile. Mario's FLUDD and the Polturgust would be under this category because while technially the FLUDD is a projectile shooting water it's only purpose is to push it, and it doesn't damage. Luigi's Polturgust would similarily do no damage but move the foe closer to Luigi instead.

Now with all these choices you get to decide which one you'd like most. Maybe you prefer his Brawl and Melee Moveset so you stick it with way, maybe you want to experiment by only adding one or 2 of the new attacks to Luigi's moveset. Or maybe you wanna go all-out and try out how the new moveset would work out if you replaced all the old moves with these. Whatever you do you can't have all 8 of these attacks at once so you must pick 4 out of the 8. If your not satisfied with how a moveset worked with those changes simply try a different combination to see if you can find the perfect B moveset that can turn your Luigi into a killing machine. And if your completely unsatisfied with anything it gives new, you can just move it back to how Brawl and Melee had his moveset.

Now Luigi was just the example. I want to know what other characters could also have alternate B moves to use. Think of the possiblities if each of the Brawl characters had 8 moves to choose from each character would have a stunning mathematical technicality 32 different moveset combinations to try.

Who would say this isn't awesome? Especially if there are any new characters then there'd be a whole new 8 moves to try. Awesome ay? This would be a great way to encorparate more attacks from the game without having to remove any old moves from the past games. So how about it? I know it probably won't happen but we can all dream of the possibilities
 

QuizmoManiac

a rhinestone cowboy
Re: Idea for SSB4 - Interchangable B Movesets

That's awesome!
Nice stuff for luigi
 

SonicMario

Star Spirit
Re: Idea for SSB4 - Interchangable B Movesets

If you guys want maybe I can do a daily (No promises on daily actually...) character-by-character go through for 8 attacks. Though I'll need help with some franchises I'm not familiar with (Fire Emblem for example) if I get to a certain character

EDIT: Once I do all Brawl Characters I'll move on to hopefuls (Or maybe those who from Melee that got removed in Brawl before that) and so on. You guys can also make your own 8-attack rosters for hopefuls, if your making one for a already existing character only add 4 more moves. Maybe when I get to that character one or all of your moves could be very useful
 

SonicMario

Star Spirit
Re: Idea for SSB4 - Interchangable B Movesets

Here's the order how I will go do this. It's actually based on the order MarioWiki has the characters so it will be starters first and then unlockables

HELP METER
1 - Little to no Help, I've got this covered
2 - Minor help, I got it but having a bit of a trouble
3 - Medium help, Got this in mind 50/50 but gonna need help with it
4 - Major help, I have at least one idea but for the most part need serious help
5 - OH PLEASE HELP, Need SERIOUS help with this character


Mario 1
Link 2
Kirby 3
Pikachu 1
Fox 2
Samus 3 (Zero Suit Samus 4)
Zelda 3 (Sheik 4)
Bowser 1
DK 2
Yoshi 1
Peach 1
Ice Climbers 3
Pit 4
Wario 1
Ike 5
Pokemon Trainer 2
Diddy 2
Meta Knight 3
Lucas 2
King Dedede 3
Olimar 3
Ness 2
Marth 5
Luigi (Already done, see first post)
Falco 3
Captain Falcon 3
Lucario 3
ROB 4
Ganondorf 2
Mr. Game and Watch 3
Jigglypuff 3
Toon Link 3
Wolf 3
Snake 4
Sonic 1
 

QuizmoManiac

a rhinestone cowboy
Re: Idea for SSB4 - Interchangable B Movesets

Hockeytown said:
Here's the order how I will go do this. It's actually based on the order MarioWiki has the characters so it will be starters first and then unlockables

HELP METER
1 - Little to no Help, I've got this covered
2 - Minor help, I got it but having a bit of a trouble
3 - Medium help, Got this in mind 50/50 but gonna need help with it
4 - Major help, I have at least one idea but for the most part need serious help
5 - OH PLEASE HELP, Need SERIOUS help with this character


Mario 1
Link 2


Kirby 3
Pikachu 1
Fox 2
Samus 3 (Zero Suit Samus 4)
Zelda 3 (Sheik 4)
Bowser 1
DK 2
Yoshi 1
Peach 1
Ice Climbers 3
Wario 1
Ike 5
Pokemon Trainer 2
Diddy 2
Meta Knight 3
Lucas 2
King Dedede 3
Olimar 3
Ness 2
Marth 5
Luigi (Already done, see first post)
Falco 3
Captain Falcon 3
Lucario 3
ROB 4
Ganondorf 2
Mr. Game and Watch 3
Jigglypuff 3
Toon Link 3
Wolf 3
Snake 4
Sonic 1
I could help with Lucas, Pokemon sieres characters,Toon Link, Olimar and I could Get knowlage from my friend about Ike and Marth (especially marth) Edit: And Kirby (My friend knows everything about Lucario!)
 

SonicMario

Star Spirit
Re: Idea for SSB4 - Interchangable B Movesets

Alright, we can begin with Mario here. Now Mario's will actually depend on what you prefer. As we know in between Melee and Brawl the Mario Tornado move was switched for FLUDD in Brawl. The only thing it replaced effectively was Mario's A down in Melee and 64 because the Mario Tornado was made an A move. So it's up to you if you'd want the Mario tornado back as the alternate effectively only adding 3 more moves to Mario's moveset instead of 4.

B Special Attack
FIREBALL (Close-range Projectile)
FIREBRAND (Close-range Physical)

B Up
SUPER JUMP PUNCH (Close-range Physical)
POWER SQUAT JUMP (Close-range Physical)

B Side
CAPE (Close-range Special)
STAR SPIN (Close-range Physical)

B Down
FLUDD (Long-range Special)
MARIO TORNADO (Close-range Physical) or GROUND POUND (Close-range Physical)

This may look like it's too similar to Luigi's but Luigi's moveset has never been too far astray from Mario's. And for the similar moves of course the way they work will be different. And while Yoshi and Bowser have Ground Pounds Mario's will have a balanced one that is slower then Yoshi's but more powerful along with being faster then Bowser's but weaker
 

SonicMario

Star Spirit
Re: Idea for SSB4 - Interchangable B Movesets

I know this is early and this is a double post but I just wanted to get Link's out of the way
Link's moveset is based on the upcoming game Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword. Of course all his original moves from the past 4 games will be the ones he had along but the 4 new ones are all related to Skyward Sword except for the Bomb Jump which I made on my own

B Special Attack
BOW (Long-range Projectile)
SWORD BEAM (Close-range Projectile)

B Up
SPIN ATTACK (Close-range Physical)
BOMB JUMP* (Close-range Projectile)

B Side
BOOMERANG (Long-range Projectile)
WHIP (Close-range Physical)

B Down
BOMB (Long-range Projectile)
BEETLE** (Long-range Special)

*This move isn't as effective as Spin Attack for recovering but it can help link go straight up, the downside however besides the fact that it isn't the best recovery move at all is that it damages Link. This move can also be used to drop bombs onto your foe
**Beetle would be able to retrieve far away items. Only useful for large stages with items on because while you control the beetle to retrieve the item Link is vulnerable to attack. Luckily the beetle is swift so someone who could really need it in a pinch can use it to their advantage

When I get to Toon Link the original 4 moves will still be cloned moves but the new 4 moves will be based on Wind Waker and not on Skyward Sword thus separating their movesets much more effectively
 

SonicMario

Star Spirit
Re: Idea for SSB4 - Interchangable B Movesets

This one was harder to make then it looks. And I'm not sure I'm overly satisfied with my choices for Kirby but here's the Puffball's new moves

B Special Attack
INHALE (Close-range Special)
YARN WHIP (Close-range Physical)

B Up
CUTTER (Close-range Projectile)
JET (Long-range Special)

B Side
HAMMER (Close-range Physical)
FIGHTER (Close-range Physical)

B Down
STONE (Close-range Physical)
TORNADO (Close-range Physical)

Honestly if you have better ideas go ahead and tell me. Maybe I'll edit this post if I like yours better then mine (Don't think I'll have an ego about my choices, some of my new ones here I think aren't that well thought out). Also I have Pikachu and Fox already set for when it's their day. However I'm having a bit of trouble with Samus and Zelda (THat includes ZSS and Sheik as well). I would appreciate the help

EDIT: Thanks for the better choices Gamefreak
 

Gamefreak75

"The hated boss who beats you down..."
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Re: Idea for SSB4 - Interchangable B Movesets

Up+B can be JET.

Down+B can be TORNADO.
 

SonicMario

Star Spirit
Re: Idea for SSB4 - Interchangable B Movesets

Alright time for Pikachu. For Pokemon I'll always look up moves that they can actually learn in the games. so here's good ol' Pikachu's,

B Special Attack
THUNDERSHOCK (Long-range Projectile)
THUNDER WAVE (Close-range Special)

QUICK ATTACK (Long-range Physical)
DOUBLE-EDGE* (Long-range Physical)

SKULL BASH (Long-range Physical)
IRON TAIL (Close-range Physical)

THUNDER (Close-range Projectile)
LEER** (Close-range Special)

*Acts similar to Sonic's Homing Attack
**Makes Shields useless temporarily

Still need dire help with Samus/ZSS and Zelda/Sheik please help.
 

Gamefreak75

"The hated boss who beats you down..."
Chat Administrator
Core 'Shroom Staff
Retired Forum Mod
Retired Wiki Staff
Re: Idea for SSB4 - Interchangable B Movesets

Looks good so far.
 

SonicMario

Star Spirit
Re: Idea for SSB4 - Interchangable B Movesets

Sorry I haven't done much. I've been busy with other things, if you frequent Userpedia you'll know why.

Anyway to make up for it I'll put down multiple characters here. Also I decided to screw the ones I can't think up immediately and save some for when I have enough ideas for them or for the end. Here's 5 of them: Fox, Bowser, Yoshi, DK, and Peach

FOX

BLASTER (Long-range Projectile)
CHARGE BLASTER (Long-range Projectile)

FIRE FOX (Long-range Physical)
JETPACK (Long-range Special)

ILLUSION (Long-range Physical)
SNIPER (Long-range Projectile)

REFLECTOR (Close-range Physical)
MISSILE LAUNCHER (Long-range Projectile)

The new attacks are all based on stuff from Star Fox Assault

BOWSER

FIRE BREATH (Close-range Projectile)
INHALE* (Close-range Physical)

FLYING SLAM (Close-range Physical)
KOOPA KLAW** (Close-range Physical)

WHIRLING FORTRESS (Close-range Physical)
KOOPA CLOWN CAR*** (Long-range Special)

BOWSER BOMB (Close-range Physical)
KOOPA SHEILD (Close-range Special) ****

*Works like Dedede's. Reference to Bowser's Inside Story
**Returning from Melee
***Works kinda like Snake's Up+B from Brawl
****Bowser withdraws into this shell for temporary invincibility

DK

GIANT PUNCH (Close-range Physical)
BARREL THROW* (Long-range Projectile)

HEADBUTT (Close-range Physical)
RAMBI CHARGE (Long-range Physical)

SPINNING KONG (Close-range Physical)
BABOON BLAST** (Long-range Physical)

HAND SLAP (Close-range Physical)
HAND CLAP*** (Close-range Physical)

*Donkey Kong Arcade/NES Move
**DK64 Move
***Works as a much weaker version of the clap in the Final Smash from Brawl

YOSHI

EGG LAY (Close-range Physical)
JUICE SQUIRT* (Long-range Special)

EGG ROLL (Long-range Physical)
YOSHI CAR** (Long-range Physical)

EGG THROW (Long-range Projectile)
YOSHI HELICOPTER** (Long-range Special)

YOSHI BOMB (Close-range Physical)
YOSHI BULB*** (Close-range Special)

*Sunshine Move
**Yoshi's Island Moves
***If someone is close enough, paralyzed (As in blinded temporarily) also SMG2 reference

PEACH

TOAD (Close-range Physical)
CALM* (Close-range Special)

PEACH BOMBER (Close-range Physical)
GLOOM* (Long-range Physical)

PEACH PARASOL (Close-range Physical)
POWER SQUAT JUMP (Close-range Physical)

VEGETABLE (Long-range Projectile)
GROUND POUND** (Close-range Projectile)

*Super Princess Peach Moves. Calm slowly heals but sacrifices the Toad Move that shields Peach, Gloom has Peach run fast crying running over foes and behind her a water trail that can trip people appears
**Weakest of the Ground Pounds but the fastest moving
**
 

QuizmoManiac

a rhinestone cowboy
Re: Idea for SSB4 - Interchangable B Movesets

Good one!
I like Yoshi's
 

SonicMario

Star Spirit
Re: Idea for SSB4 - Interchangable B Movesets

Just thought I'd bring this back with SSB4 a reality now. I know it's a real old thread of mine by now but maybe it's more relevant now

DIDDY

PEANUT POPGUN (Long-Range Projectile)
TORCH (Close-Range Physical)*

MONKEY FLIP (Long-Range Physical)
HAMMER (Close-Range Physical)*

ROCKETBARREL BOOST (Long-Range Physical)
WINGS (Long-Range Special)*

BANANA PEEL (Long-Range Special)
GUITAR GAZUMP (Close-Range Special)**

*Donkey Kong Jungle Climber items
**Temporarily Paralyzes

ICE CLIMBERS

ICE SHOT (Long-Range Projectile)
HAMMER THROW (Long-Range Projectile)

SQUALL HAMMER (Close-Range Physical)
BELAY THRUST (Long-Range Physical)*

BELAY (Long-Range Special)
BLIZZARD JET (Long-Range Physical)**

BLIZZARD (Close-Range Projectile)
HAMMER SLAM (Close-Range Physical)

*Like a sideways belay
**An attempt to Use Blizzard to propel them upward just enough to recover

WARIO

CHOMP (Close-Range Physical)
ULTRA-HAND (Long-Range Special)*

WARIO BIKE (Long-Range Physical)
PILEDRIVER (Close-Range Physical)**

CORKSCREW (Short-Range Physical)
JET WARIO (Long-Range Special)

WARIO WAFT (Close-Range Physical)
GROUND POUND (Close-Range Physical)***

*Grabs Foe closer to Wario it's slower then Luigi's Vacuum but if successful grab, foes can't escape until Wario either cancels or the hand closes back to the closest it can to Wario
**Works like Ganondorf's and Wario's throws can be used for taking your foe with you for a suicide lunge
***The most powerful and slow of the 3 plumbers, but isn't as strong as Bowser's Bowser Bomb

POKEMON TRAINER (Only Pokemon Trainer and Olimar have a special move they can not switch of the veterans)

SQUIRTLE

WATER GUN (Close-Range Projectile/Long-Range Special)
BUBBLE (Close-Range Projectile)

WITHDRAW (Long-Range Physical)
AQUA TAIL (Close-Range Physical)

WATERFALL (Long-Range Physical)
RAPID SPIN (Long-Range Physical)

IVYSAUR

BULLET SEED (Long-Range Projectile)
LEECH SEED (Close-Range Special)*

RAZOR LEAF (Long-Range Projectile)
POISON POWDER (Close-Range Special)**

VINE WHIP (Close-Range Physical)
DOUBLE-EDGE (Long-Range Physical)

*If Leech Seed attaches will temporarily drain tiny energy for Ivysaur
**Increases damage but requires being more closer then Leech Seed and does not give energy for Ivysaur


CHARIZARD

FLAMETHROWER (Close-Range Projectile)
SCARY FACE (Close-Range Special)*

ROCK SMASH (Close-Range Physical)
FIRE SPIN (Close-Range Projectile)

FLY (Long-Range Physical)
AIR SLASH (Close-Range Physical)

*Paralyzes Temporarily

LUCAS

PK FREEZE (Long-Range Projectile)
SIREN BEETLE (Close-Range Special)*

PK FIRE (Close-Range Projectile)
PARALYSIS (Close-Range Special)**

PK THUNDER (Long-Range Projectile)
WALL STAPLES (Close-Range Special)***

PK MAGNET (Close-Range Special)
HEALING (Close-Range Special)****

*Makes foe turn around (similar to hitting somebody with Mario's cape)
**Paralyzes Temporarily
***Lucas lunges to the closest wall he can find, if used as a weapon it does a tiny stab that does minimal damage. Sort of gives Lucas the ability to Wall Jump
****Slowly heals own damage but must stand still without using shields or attacking

OLIMAR (Only Pokemon Trainer and Olimar have a special move they can not switch of the veterans)

PIKMIN PLUCK (Close-Range Special)

PIKMIN THROW (Long-Range Projectile)
BOMB ROCK (Close-Range Projectile)*

PIKMIN CHAIN (Long-Range Physical)
PIKMIN SACRIFICE (Long-Range Special)**

PIKMIN WHISTLE (Close-Range Special)
PIKMIN ROTATE (Close-Range Special)***

*Unlike in Pikmin, Yellows aren't the only one who can use them. They however work best when Yellows are out because they throw farther and fast enough to be effective
**In a last ditch effort all the Pikmin throw Olimar as far as they can up in the air if they're above an abyss they'll all die but Olimar will have likely made it
***When pressed, the Front pikmin will go to the back in case Olimar wants to use the next in-line first

NESS

PK FLASH (Long-Range Projectile)
BOTTLE ROCKET (Long-Range Projectile)

PK FIRE (Close-Range Projectile)
BRAINSHOCK (Close-Range Special)*

PK THUNDER (Long-Range Projectile)
TELEPORT (Long-Range Special)

PK MAGNET (Close-Range Special)
HEALING (Close-Range Special)

*Paralyzes Temporarily

FALCO

BLASTER (Long-Range Projectile)
DUAL-WIELD BLASTERS (Long-Range Projectile)*

FIRE BIRD (Long-Range Physical)
JETPACK (Long-Range Special)

ILLUSION (Long-Range Physical)
BACKFLIP (Long-Range Special)**

REFLECTOR (Close-Range Physical)
MISSILE LAUNCHER (Long-Range Projectile)

*Does more damage then Blaster, but it's 2 of Fox type Blasters so they don't make a foe flinch
**Sort of like an extra dodge

LUCARIO

AURA SPHERE (Long-Range Projectile)
METAL CLAW (Close-Range Physical)

EXTREMESPEED (Long-Range Special)
QUICK ATTACK (Long-Range Physical)

FORCE PALM (Close-Range Physical)
BONE RUSH (Long-Range Physical)

DOUBLE TEAM (Close-Range Physical)
CALM MIND (Close-Range Special)*

*If move completes, Attack strength is increased

GANONDORF

WARLOCK PUNCH (Close-Range Physical)
MAGIC BLAST (Long-Range Projectile)

FLAME CHOKE (Close-Range Physical)
SWORD SMASH (Close-Range Physical)

DARK DIVE (Long-Range Physical)
TELEPORT (Long-Range Special)

WIZARDS FOOT (Long-Range Physical)
SHOCKWAVE (Close-Range Special)*

*Paralyzes Temporarily

GAME AND WATCH

CHEF (Close-Range Projectile)
BALL (Long-Range Projectile)

JUDGE (Close-Range Special/Physical)
LION TAMER (Close-Range Physical)*

FIRE (Long-Range Physical)
TURTLE BRIDGE (Long-Range Projectile)**

OIL PANIC (Close-Range Special/Projectile)
HELMET (Close-Range Special)***

*Whip
**Turtles Spawn and one by one Game and Watch jumps on each of them to get back to the stage. Vulnerable to being attacked mid-way through though
***Bonus shield

JIGGLYPUFF

ROLLOUT (Long-Range Physical)
HYPER VOICE (Close-Range Projectile)*

POUND (Close-Range Physical)
DOUBLE SLAP (Close-Range Physical)

SING (Close-Range Special)
DEFLATION (Long-Range Special)**

REST (Close-Range Physical)
DEFENSE CURL (Close-Range Special)***

*Does not Damage much, but the closer the foe is to Jigglypuff the Knockback gets larger. At most powerful when foe is right in front of Jigglypuff's face
**Jigglypuff deflates like a balloon. May or may not be helpful as Jigglypuff goes in random directions when deflating
***Increases Shield power

WOLF

BLASTER (Long-Range Projectile)
SCRATCH (Close-Range Physical)

WOLF FLASH (Long-Range Physical)
LAZER KNIFE (Close-Range Physical)*

FIRE WOLF (Long-Range Physical)
JETPACK (Long-Range Special)

REFLECTOR (Close-Range Physical)
SCREECHING HOWL (Close-Range Special)**

*I know there was never one in the games, but just something to give Wolf his own weapon out of the Star Fox characters
**Paralyzes Temporarily

SNAKE

HAND GRENADE (Long-Range Projectile)
STUN KNIFE (Close-Range Special)*

REMOTE CONTROLLED MISSILE (Long-Range Projectile)
MACHETE (Close-Range Physical)

CYPHER (Long-Range Projectile)
GRAPPLING HOOK (Long-Range Special)**

C4 (Close-Range Projectile)
SNARE (Close-Range Special)***

*Paralyzes Temporarily
**A tether grab for Snake
***Traps a foe in a net. Like Yoshi's egg move the more damage the harder it is to get out of the net.

SONIC

HOMING ATTACK (Close-Range Physical)
DUMMY RING (Long-Range Projectile)

SPIN DASH (Long-Range Physical)
SONIC WAVE (Long-Range Projectile)*

SPRING JUMP (Long-Range Projectile)
ROCKET (Long-Range Physical)**

SPIN CHARGE (Long-Range Physical)
CUBE (Close-Range Physical)***

*The wave Sonic shoots at foes from Sonic Battle
**Recovers even more vertical distance then the Spring but can't use A Moves after
***Acts similar to Kirby's Stone move

Also I might not be doing more besides the ones I did not do by now unless you guys which are fans of those franchises to educate me on it. I just don't have enough knowledge of the other franchises or have Sakurai's imagination with how he did stuff like Captain Falcon's moves and such. I'm willing to let everyone else think if their favorite characters had interchangable special movesets with a limit of 2 moves per special move with only 4 of the 8 that can be used for battle. Also again you can also think of 8 moves for hypothetical newcomers. While Veterans get only 4 moves, the Newcomers would be the lucky ones to get 8 moves for themselves to choose from
If you have any issue with the ones I have now, I tried my best to study upon actual game moves for each of the characters I did. I also tried to think of ways how stuff can be balanced such as some of my talk in the * notes but some of you may still see some of them as overpowered which could be true with some of the new moves are combined with one of the older ones but remember that a new move replaces an old move if used until a player wants to change it back.
 

Dark Light

Cherries and Berries
Re: Idea for SSB4 - Interchangable B Movesets

How will you be able to activate the second B attack? There has to be a way.
 

SonicMario

Star Spirit
Re: Idea for SSB4 - Interchangable B Movesets

Baby Luigi said:
How will you be able to activate the second B attack? There has to be a way.
It would work like this, select your character a button will show saying something like "Attack Options" when you get to the option screen it would show 4 moves on with Up, Standard, Down, and Sideways. The default would be the exact special moveset they had in Brawl (This is assuming the character you pick is a Veteran) and if you select one either Up Standard Down or Sideways. Let me use Luigi as an example

DEFAULT
UP
Super Jump Punch

SIDEWAYS STANDARD
Green Missile Fireball

DOWN
Luigi Cyclone

Say that you wanted to switch Luigi Cyclone to the Polturgust. Simply highlight the Down attack section and press A or the equivalent of it to get a smaller menu that looks like this

DOWN
Luigi Cyclone / Polturgust 5000

You simply choose Polturgust 5000 and then that option will show up instead of Luigi Cyclone. Thus looking like this now

UP
Super Jump Punch

SIDEWAYS STANDARD
Green Missile Fireball

DOWN
Polturgust 5000

If you wanted to switch them all to new attacks you do the same with the others and it will look like this:

UP
Power Squat Jump

SIDEWAYS STANDARD
Ice Throw Thunderhand

DOWN
Polturgust 5000

You can do any combination of old and new attacks except for ones that are in the same column. It goes without saying you can't have more then one of each type of Special Attack for the Smash series. It'd overcomplicate things. But an option like this allows more variety and brings an experience that is new for even characters that have been in the Smash series since the beginning. It gives more of a reason to try out all characters to try out all the combinations and how they'd work against other characters with their own different combinations. Providing TONS of replay value
 

Brawl Mario

Super Smash Bros.'s most fearsome plumber
Re: Idea for SSB4 - Interchangable B Movesets

Mario's Up B should be the Rocket FLUDD, like the one that propels him up while his Down B should be Ground Pound, perhaps?
 

SonicMario

Star Spirit
Re: Idea for SSB4 - Interchangable B Movesets

Ornithologist Mario said:
Mario's Up B should be the Rocket FLUDD, like the one that propels him up while his Down B should be Ground Pound, perhaps?
I have an "or Ground Pound" for Mario if Nintendo decided to keep Mario Tornado as the A Down move already. And as for the Rocket FlLUDD I suppose it could work, perhaps even better then the Power Squat Jump. Rocket FLUDD would probably be a much better vertical recovery though the funny thing is, with Rocket FLUDD Mario and Sonic would have a similar move at least for a new attack (Sonic has the Rocket wisp for an alternate recovery).
 

Brawl Mario

Super Smash Bros.'s most fearsome plumber
Re: Idea for SSB4 - Interchangable B Movesets

Northern Verve said:
Ornithologist Mario said:
Mario's Up B should be the Rocket FLUDD, like the one that propels him up while his Down B should be Ground Pound, perhaps?
I have an "or Ground Pound" for Mario if Nintendo decided to keep Mario Tornado as the A Down move already. And as for the Rocket FlLUDD I suppose it could work, perhaps even better then the Power Squat Jump. Rocket FLUDD would probably be a much better vertical recovery though the funny thing is, with Rocket FLUDD Mario and Sonic would have a similar move at least for a new attack (Sonic has the Rocket wisp for an alternate recovery).
I was thinking that Rocket FLUDD would work in a similar manner to ROB's Up B. I have no clue what Sonic's Rocket Wisp looks like.
 

SonicMario

Star Spirit
Re: Idea for SSB4 - Interchangable B Movesets

Ornithologist Mario said:
Northern Verve said:
Ornithologist Mario said:
Mario's Up B should be the Rocket FLUDD, like the one that propels him up while his Down B should be Ground Pound, perhaps?
I have an "or Ground Pound" for Mario if Nintendo decided to keep Mario Tornado as the A Down move already. And as for the Rocket FlLUDD I suppose it could work, perhaps even better then the Power Squat Jump. Rocket FLUDD would probably be a much better vertical recovery though the funny thing is, with Rocket FLUDD Mario and Sonic would have a similar move at least for a new attack (Sonic has the Rocket wisp for an alternate recovery).
I was thinking that Rocket FLUDD would work in a similar manner to ROB's Up B. I have no clue what Sonic's Rocket Wisp looks like.
Oh I think your mistaking the Rocket for the Hover Nozzle. The Hover Nozzle could work well, less stiff then ROB's recovery. It's a nice idea.
 

Brawl Mario

Super Smash Bros.'s most fearsome plumber
Re: Idea for SSB4 - Interchangable B Movesets

I get frequently mixed up. When I think of Rocket, I think of something going up. -_-

I want Mario's vB to be both the Tornado and the Ground Pound.
 

SonicMario

Star Spirit
Holy shit, while I'm sure it's not exactly what I asked for. But changing the special moves seems have become a thing with the Custom Movesets.

So I can say I at least somewhat called it 4 years back :D
 
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