Today we fight against mass survailence

Why is this crap even a real thing if it obviously violates the Constitution?
 
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Baby Luigi said:
Why is this crap even a real thing if it obviously violates the Constitution?
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because elastic clause, and because there are people in our government who think it's not a problem at all (FEINSTEIN!!!!!)
 
Baby Luigi said:
Why is this crap even a real thing if it obviously violates the Constitution?
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Because the supreme court has often times ruled that the Constitution van be ignored during a time of war
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/02/11/maryland-lawmakers-want-to-cut-water-electricity-to-nsa-headquarters/
 
Vocal Beat said:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/02/11/maryland-lawmakers-want-to-cut-water-electricity-to-nsa-headquarters/
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while that's clever, the feds will probably just use the mcculloch v maryland case to say that the state has no power over their facility

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although whether they can force utility companies to give them services is another question
 
The thing is, you can get search warrants to check computer history and data, so why can't they just do that if they need to investigate someone? Like, what they're doing is actually ridiculous, they're meant to be law enforcers and instead break thousands of them per year just so they can spy on innocent people because, AFAICT, it's just easier than using the proper process of gathering a search warrant.

What's even more strange is when companies like Telstra (biggest telco in Aus) store and provide information for them. I probably don't need to explain the problems with that.
 
too many people actually think the government gives a shit about what goes on in their lives

i'm not particularly for this whole "mass surveillance" shitstorm, but really it's not like i have anything to hide

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said Banjo as he returned to his beloved occupation at the Ministry of Truth
 
Doctor Walter Bishop said:
too many people actually think the government gives a *bleep* about what goes on in their lives

i'm not particularly for this whole "mass surveillance" *bleep*storm, but really it's not like i have anything to hide

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said Banjo as he returned to his beloved occupation at the Ministry of Truth
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People are still entitled to their privacy, not to mention to you have any idea about the shitstorm if that data was compromised?
 
Doctor Walter Bishop said:
too many people actually think the government gives a shit about what goes on in their lives

i'm not particularly for this whole "mass surveillance" shitstorm, but really it's not like i have anything to hide

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said Banjo as he returned to his beloved occupation at the Ministry of Truth
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i thought the ministry of love was behind the surveillance. : /
 
It is (it's from whence the Thought Police are deployed when needed), but I think Banjo's just making a reference to how the main character works at Minitrue.