Collab: Cleaning the Trivia sections

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Air Bag is a pun on the word airbag

The [enemy literally called "Thwack Totem"] resembles a totem pole.

[Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games‎] is the First Time seeing Toad and Toadette Barefoot

You might be laughing, but a scary majority of the trivia sections are composed of this sort of nonsense. Thanks to its ill-defined, "anything fits in" nature and the low barrier of entry, Trivia has been a fertile breeding ground for insanely obvious statements, tortured associations, random "facts" the editor didn't know where to fit in the main text and insane bullshit. It's the perfect section for "contributing" to the wiki without actually adding anything meaningful.

Trivia sections aren’t actually supposed to exist, or at least nowhere near as much as they are now. The Manual of style discourages using them and tell to fit the information in the main body whenever possible. But of course, nobody reads boring guidelines pages.

So yeah, trivia needs a serious cleanup and that is going to take a very (very very very) large combined effort to do that. To participate, simply check the trivia section for any article you are reading and clean it accordingly, and/or patrol the recent changes for any recently added trivia “info”. If you are not sure if a Trivia entry is valid or where to fit the information in the body, don’t hesitate to post in this thread. And be sure to share any BJAODN-worthy stupidity you may find, eheheheh.

Articles tagged with this category are especially in need of a good cleanup.



What Trivia is for:

It’s really a “You know it when you see it” thing. There are a few instances where a relevant/interesting information cannot be integrated elegantly anywhere in the main text. In those cases, trivia sections are acceptable.

What Trivia isn't for:

*Explaining extremely obvious puns or naming conventions (The Fire Skeleton is named as such because it's a skeleton on fire? You don't say.). Puns on figures of speech are generally exempt from being "too obvious" as non-native speakers are largely guaranteed to not be familiar with them.
*Dubious, strained "links" between two elements (Ex: "Mario having three segments of health in Super Mario Galaxy is a reference to how he can take three hits in Super Mario Bros 3. if you use a powerup”).
*Loose "patterns" don't have any meaning beyond "this doesn’t happen/this happens rarely/this happens more than once". (Ex: "In each Paper Mario games, someone is told to "still their tongue" by someone whose name's start with B". Okay, and..?)
*Speculation. If any trivia entry claims that something is "unconfirmed", it has a 99.2% chance of being worthless bullshit,
*Random facts that could easily be inserted in the main text. If the “Red Chomp” enemy has blue teeth, it would be much better to write “The Red Chomp is a chain-chomp with red skin and blue teeth” in the main body rather than sticking “It has blue teeth” randomly somewhere near the end.
 
Glowsquid said:
[Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games‎] is the First Time seeing Toad and Toadette Barefoot
Why did you include that one? Almost as soon as it was added, it was quickly removed. Four times.

On topic, I'll try my best to help, though perhaps you could also mention the overly long trivia sections?
 
Definitely in on this. I already try to remove any bad trivia I see, so this isn't going to be a whole lot of extra effort.
 
GreenDisaster said:
On topic, I'll try my best to help, though perhaps you could also mention the overly long trivia sections?

Good call, I added a link to http://www.mariowiki.com/Category:Articles_with_long_Trivia_sections.
 
This is Mario and Luigi's first adventure together since Super Mario World.
The theme when fighting Cackletta in Woohoo Hooniversity is a remix of the Koopa Baddies Arrive (theme which is also known as the Danger theme) and Cackletta Theme (the theme that plays when Cackletta is present)
Not sure of either of these. First could probably be removed but I want to doublecheck. Second sounds like something legitimate, but on the wrong page...
 
I'd say the first can safely be removed and the second would be a better fit for the Cackletta page.
 
I'm so in also because from looking at other wikis and wikias, too many trivias makes the article look bad.
 
I remember removing shit trivia on the Macho Grubba and Lady Bow pages.

I also cleaned up Mimi and Yoshi Kid's trivias.
 
*By coincidence, the title ''Super Mario Galaxy'' was first mentioned in a fan letter written to [[Nintendo Power]] by Jimmy Peterford of Glen Cove, New York. The letter in question, which was printed in the December 1991 issue, detailed a fantasy game system called the Raw Power System, which would come bundled with a game titled ''Super Mario Galaxy'', but in Peterford's words, would be "better known as ''Super Mario Bros. 24''!"
Keep or delete?
 
I'm not 100% sure either but I'm leaning toward keep, seems like the kind of minor detail that's interesting to note but doesn't really have a place anywhere else.