Nullify and Neutralize: Cartoon Episode Middle Places

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Okay, here is a new concept of thread that may be found interesting. In the past, there has been a Hurt and Heal covering the best cartoon episode that has been in an Elimination thread, as well as a Mend and Ruin thread to determine the worst episode that has been in an Elimination thread. This thread will go a different route and cover a different measure, the most average cartoon episode to ever be in an Elimination thread. Here is how it works.

-HP starts at 0 for all contenders. You can choose to heal an episode you like up until it reaches an upper limit of 13, or hurt an episode you dislike until it reaches a lower limit of -13 HP, so as to remove it from being the most average contender on the list in both instances. If an episode hits either amount of HP, it is eliminated from the thread; thus, whichever episode stays within the HP range of -12 to 12 HP without being eliminated the longest wins and thus is marked the most average contender on the list. Thus, in general consider eliminating first the episodes you think are the furthest from being average one way or another whether you strongly like them or strongly dislike them. Then, work your way towards the episodes you think are more average, eliminating the ones that you more mildly like or dislike by the end so as to keep your most neutral contender. (a.k.a. the further from 5/10 the earlier to consider getting it out)

Example: Here is a Nullify and Neutralize game for Vegetables.

Carrot: 0
Pepper: 0
Peas: 0
Tomato: 0
Onion: 0
Brussels Sprouts: 0
Celery: 0

The users who play tend to really like carrots, peppers, and peas, so they eliminate it by healing it to 13 HP as they agree that they are good vegetables, not average vegetables. On the other hand, the users who play do not like onions, brussels sprouts, or celery at all, so they eliminate it by hurting it to -13 HP as they consider the vegetables too subpar to even be average.

Thus results end up being:
Carrot: 13
Pepper: 13
Peas: 13
Tomato: 0
Onion: -13
Brussels Sprouts: -13
Celery: -13

With Tomato then winning the thread because users feel neutrally towards it instead of really liking it or really not liking it.
This may be the one thread where both users who strongly like a contender and strongly dislike a contender may consider working together to speed things up on changing its HP because at least they both agree that it is not average, one way or the other.

-You can do a total of 5 HP damage or healing total for up to 2 items, so for example hurting one item by 4 HP or hurting two items by 2 HP each would be acceptable.

-This thread covers the middle spots of cartoon episodes from every Elimination game covering cartoon episodes (except for the MLP VTW of course), but if a thread has an even number of contenders leading to two middle spots, both of them make it. Also, if a thread has multiple rounds (in this case the MLP S1-9 thread), the middle places from each round make it.

-If you have not seen every episode on the list that is fine, but please make sure you have seen the episode that you are eliminating.


There are quite a few contenders this time, so it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Like with the thread covering the entire show of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, I am hoping that this thread will consistently have three or more players (even though it will probably be shorter than that one). Also like with that thread, this is intended to be flexible if one wants to play at their own place, so if a hold is requested to rewatch the episodes or any other reason, it will very likely be granted, but please let me know how much time you want the hold to be.

Let's start.

The Awakening: 0
Friendship is Magic, part 1: 0
Dragonshy: 0
The Return of Harmony - Part 1: 0
Hearth's Warming Eve: 0
Putting Your Hoof Down: 0
Twilight Time: 0
Castle Sweet Castle: 0
The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows: 0
The Mane Attraction: 0
Celestial Advice: 0
Fluttershy Leans In: 0
Daring Done?: 0
School Raze - Part 1: 0
School Raze - Part 2: 0
The Last Laugh: 0
 
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The Awakening: 0
Friendship is Magic, part 1: 0
Dragonshy: 2
The Return of Harmony - Part 1: 2

Hearth's Warming Eve: 0
Putting Your Hoof Down: 0
Twilight Time: 0
Castle Sweet Castle: 0
The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows: 0
The Mane Attraction: 0
Celestial Advice: 0
Fluttershy Leans In: 0
Daring Done?: 0
School Raze - Part 1: 0
School Raze - Part 2: 0
The Last Laugh: 0
 
This list's average quality is interesting as I'd consider it to be more decent than mediocre on average, I only really dislike one episode and plan to eliminate it on the negative end out of the entire list, concededly that's probably the most polarizing episode here so which one it is can probably be guessed

I think it's interesting that Part 1 specifically of Return of Harmony is here considering it had an interesting role in the Seasons 1-9 thread, but as with that thread I'm going to want it out and so will help with healing it. Return of Harmony was an excellent two-parter with the introduction of Discord, polished confident writing and a more suspenseful creepy tone so it should be eliminated as a contender for the most average episode. It's probably my second favorite here but I'm also going to start marginally healing my favorite episode this move

The Awakening: 0
Friendship is Magic, part 1: 0
Dragonshy: 2
The Return of Harmony - Part 1: 5
Hearth's Warming Eve: 0
Putting Your Hoof Down: 0
Twilight Time: 0
Castle Sweet Castle: 0
The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows: 0
The Mane Attraction: 1
Celestial Advice: 0
Fluttershy Leans In: 0
Daring Done?: 0
School Raze - Part 1: 0
School Raze - Part 2: 0
The Last Laugh: 0
 
return of harmony is probably a top 20 episode of mlp for me so it's the one im eliminating first. most of these are not average for me but there are contenders

The Awakening: 0
Friendship is Magic, part 1: 0
Dragonshy: 2
The Return of Harmony - Part 1: 9
Hearth's Warming Eve: 0
Putting Your Hoof Down: 0
Twilight Time: 0
Castle Sweet Castle: 0
The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows: 0
The Mane Attraction: 1
Celestial Advice: 0
Fluttershy Leans In: 0
Daring Done?: 0
School Raze - Part 1: 0
School Raze - Part 2: 0
The Last Laugh: 0
 
Return of Harmony is my second favorite episode here, and was also in my Top 20 for my S1-5 rankings so I'm going to go ahead and finish it off myself

Also as of after this post you can do a total of 5 HP damage or healing total for up to 2 items, that way the thread goes a bit faster while still not being over in a second

The Awakening: 0
Friendship is Magic, part 1: 0
Dragonshy: 2
The Return of Harmony - Part 1
Hearth's Warming Eve: 0
Putting Your Hoof Down: 0
Twilight Time: 0
Castle Sweet Castle: 0
The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows: 0
The Mane Attraction: 1
Celestial Advice: 0
Fluttershy Leans In: 0
Daring Done?: 0
School Raze - Part 1: 0
School Raze - Part 2: 0
The Last Laugh: 0
 
now that that's out of the way, I will just be bouncing between healing the episodes I really like and hurting the one here i actively dislike until they're all gone

The Awakening: 0
Friendship is Magic, part 1: 0
Dragonshy: 4
Hearth's Warming Eve: 0
Putting Your Hoof Down: -3
Twilight Time: 0
Castle Sweet Castle: 0
The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows: 0
The Mane Attraction: 1
Celestial Advice: 0
Fluttershy Leans In: 0
Daring Done?: 0
School Raze - Part 1: 0
School Raze - Part 2: 0
The Last Laugh: 0
 
Right now I'm going to focus on the two 9's and high 8 and then go after the episode I dislike here, despite that which one that is is a 1 so technically further from being average than the 8 but it would feel especially insulting to the episodes I like if they had a chance of winning.
My least favorite ep for me out of the entire show is probably the one I would have quickly gotten out before any of the good episodes on this list even though my least favorite episode here is a bottom 10 episode of the show and probably leans bottom 5 too
I know the high 8 is something you probably would disagree with winning but not as strongly as I would so that amplifies me wanting to cut it quicker but right now I'm getting rid of the best episode on the list

The Awakening: 0
Friendship is Magic, part 1: 0
Dragonshy: 4
Hearth's Warming Eve: 0
Putting Your Hoof Down: -3
Twilight Time: 0
Castle Sweet Castle: 0
The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows: 0
The Mane Attraction: 6
Celestial Advice: 0
Fluttershy Leans In: 0
Daring Done?: 0
School Raze - Part 1: 0
School Raze - Part 2: 0
The Last Laugh: 0
 
that's ok, you might not feel as strongly about some of mine either

The Awakening: 0
Friendship is Magic, part 1: 0
Dragonshy: 4
Hearth's Warming Eve: 0
Putting Your Hoof Down: -3
Twilight Time: 0
Castle Sweet Castle: 0
The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows: 2
The Mane Attraction: 6
Celestial Advice: 0
Fluttershy Leans In: 3
Daring Done?: 0
School Raze - Part 1: 0
School Raze - Part 2: 0
The Last Laugh: 0
 
That's so weird, I was a bit absentminded and for some reason this whole time I thought Secret of My Excess was a contender lmao. So out of the episodes on the list I extremely wanted out there were only two 9s and one very high 8 (although there are also a few 8s left but that don't border on a 9)

Might as well begin on the high 8

The Awakening: 0
Friendship is Magic, part 1: 0
Dragonshy: 4
Hearth's Warming Eve: 0
Putting Your Hoof Down: -3
Twilight Time: 0
Castle Sweet Castle: 0
The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows: 2
The Mane Attraction: 8
Celestial Advice: 0
Fluttershy Leans In: 3
Daring Done?: 0
School Raze - Part 1: 0
School Raze - Part 2: 0
The Last Laugh: 3