Collab: Intro standards for subpages

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My proposal passed: MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_34#Intro_standards_for_subpages

So now we should edit subpages to have consistency in the intros:

Template:Glitches
This is a list of glitches pertaining to the game ''[[insert name]]''.
Sometimes followed by: For a list of glitches pertaining to the remake/port/whatever, ''[[insert name]], see ''[[insert name|here]].

Template:BetaElements
This is a list of beta elements pertaining to the game ''[[insert name]]''.
Sometimes followed by: For a list of beta elements pertaining to the remake/port/whatever, ''[[insert name]], see ''[[insert name|here]].

Template:Staff Teams
This is a list of the staff involved with the game ''[[insert name]]''.
Sometimes followed by: For a list of the staff involved with the remake/port/whatever, ''[[insert name]], see ''[[insert name|here]].

Template:Quotes
This is a list of quotes pertaining to the game ''[[insert name]]''.
Sometimes followed by: For a list of quotes pertaining to the remake/port/whatever, ''[[insert name]], see ''[[insert name|here]].
OR
This is a list of quotes pertaining to the ''[[insert name]]'' series.
OR
This is a list of quotes pertaining to the ''television series/television cartoon/animated series''.

Template:NavMedia
This is a list of audio files pertaining to the game ''[[insert name]]''.
Sometimes followed by: For a list of audio files pertaining to the remake/port/whatever, ''[[insert name]], see ''[[insert name|here]].
OR
nothing (for Sound Room)

Category:Galleries
This is a gallery of images pertaining to the game/ennemy/character(s)/species/application/system/nothing/whatever fits ''[[insert name]]''.
Sometimes followed by: For a gallery of images pertaining to the remake/port/whatever, ''[[insert name]], see ''[[insert name|here]].

Do you agree with those standards?
 
Maybe it's just me, but I'd prefer to replace "pertaining to" with "from". And then with the gallery, have it be replaced by "featuring" for characters/enemies/species. But otherwise, good.
 
Why not, maybe it's more simple. But I'd like to keep it for the galleries since it would also fit for Rosalina's Storybook, systems, and games.
 
I agree with YoshiKong: "pertaining to" is appropriate for things like game-related images because not all of them will be from the game: there will also be boxart, promotional art, and the like. It can also good for the remake sentences, because it emphasizes that those images/whatever are only from the remake/etc. and not the original, and it adds variety (in all cases, try to avoid saying the exact same thing both times: repetition is bad, although you can get away it for simple things like "from", just not big showy words). But using it all the time seems a bit artificial.

I have more to say, but I'm posting from work and I keep getting interrupted by customers, so I'll post what I have now at the risk of getting post-conflicted again.


EDIT: Okay, here's more what I was envisioning:

This is a list of glitches occurring in the game ''[[insert name]]''. For a list of glitches only found in the remake/port/whatever, ''[[insert name]]'', see [[insert name|here]].

This is a list of beta elements of the game ''[[insert name]]''. For a list of beta elements pertaining to the remake/port/whatever, ''[[insert name]]'', see [[insert name|here]].

This is a list of the staff involved with the game/film/whatever ''[[insert name]]''. For a list of the staff who worked on the remake/port/whatever, ''[[insert name]]'', see [[insert name|here]].

This is a list of quotes from the game/film/whatever ''[[insert name]]''. For a list of quotes pertaining to the remake/port/whatever, ''[[insert name]]'', see [[insert name|here]].
OR
This is a list of quotes from the ''[[insert name]]'' (cartoon/comic/television) series.

This is a list of audio/media files from the game ''[[insert name]]''. For a list of files from the remake/port/whatever, ''[[insert name]]'', see [[insert name|here]].

This is a gallery of images pertaining to the game/show/movie/whatever ''[[insert name]]''. For a gallery of images originating from the remake/port/whatever, ''[[insert name]]'', see [[insert name|here]].
OR
This is a gallery of images featuring [[insert character]]/[[species]]s.
OR
This is a gallery of images featuring the [[item]]/[[X Mario|X form]]/[[gaming system]].

Plus special cases (for galleries or otherwise).


EDIT 2: Also, for the actual remake/port/whatever pages, it'd go the other way (mostly replace "port/etc." with "original", but there's also some tweaks to a couple lines to make it sound more natural):

This is a list of glitches occurring in the game ''[[insert name]]''. For a list of glitches pertaining to the original ''[[insert name]]'', see [[insert name|here]].

This is a list of beta elements of the game ''[[insert name]]''. For a list of beta elements pertaining to the original ''[[insert name]]'', see [[insert name|here]].

This is a list of the staff involved with the game ''[[insert name]]''. For a list of the staff who worked on the original ''[[insert name]]'', see [[insert name|here]].

This is a list of quotes from the game ''[[insert name]]''. For a list of quotes taken from the original ''[[insert name]]'', see [[insert name|here]].

This is a list of audio/media files from the game ''[[insert name]]''. For a list of files from the original ''[[insert name]]'', see [[insert name|here]].

This is a gallery of images pertaining to the game ''[[insert name]]''. For a gallery of images related to the original ''[[insert name]]'', see [[insert name|here]].
 
I might as well post it here:

On the proposals page, Walkazo said we should add "For images of the Luigi character from the SMB movie, see [here], for images of Baby Luigi, see [here]." to the Luigi gallery (for example).

I agree.
 
Shouldn't we also have systems in gallery intros?

Such as:

This is a gallery of images pertaining to the [[console]] title, [[game]]
 
Ok good, every one just some questions:

  • When will it be done?
  • Will it be a template or just plain text?, I think template is better, so it could be changed easier and per MarioWiki:Once and Only Once.
  • If it is a template, would it be one template, or a spreate template for each type of subpages?
  • As for Media, I think "audio files" should be replaced with "media files" as it could contain videos too. Who with me?
  • As for staff, I think staff could be in television shows too, so it should be something like that:
    This is a list of the staff involved with the game/film/whatever ''[[insert name]]''.
    Who with me?
 
No. Like I said in the proposal, a template's no good (multiple templates would be just as bad). There's way too much variation based on the media and subject type and whether or not there's remakes or if the page is for a remake; even multiple templates wouldn't cover it all. Just copy and paste the text and manually change the stuff. No need to make it complicated - if anything, that'll make it harder to implement since folks will get too intimidated. Besides, it has nothing to do with "Once and Only Once":

As it applies to a wiki, it means that you shouldn't duplicate any information or keep multiple copies of documents organized in different ways.

[...]

This means that an individual object or being should have only one page pertaining to it. Users should check for a page's existence before creating a new one.
^That's all it's talking about.


Non-game media can definitely have staff pages too, so modifying that one makes sense. I'll go update my old post to include that cha