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I was never really a huge fan of trivia sections in this wiki. Theoretically, they're supposed to be areas where you are supposed to plop interesting, miscellaneous information that cannot be fit elsewhere in the article, such as information from pre-release builds of the game, developer interviews, and maybe some easter eggs on courses. More often than not, they've been the target of a lot of nonsequitur, badly organized content with the following consistencies I tend to see them have:
This is the First Time seeing Toad and Toadette Barefoot
Low-quality observations that are easily convoluted and twisted beyond belief to have a significant meaning.
Yoshi is the reason why the famous Pokemon series is still here today.
Tied to references that are not actually there.
In the demo version of the game, luigi can be heard laughing in the background of the boss battle music. This feature does not happen in the real game. This may be subliminal marketing, annoying the player to the point of buying the game.
Bad speculation and observations.
The Observatory is one of the only rooms with no Boos in it.
Statements that can easily be integrated into the body article somewhere.
The Donkey Kong at this stage is Cranky Kong
Statements already made in the body article or in another article.
Of course, this list isn't exhaustive, but 9 times out of 10, Trivia points seem to fall under one or more these trends listed above.
It's extremely telling we even have a policy page that specifically discourages use of them to begin with and we arbitrarily limit their length, in which practically no other area in the wiki has a limit this strict on the amount listed. Why do we arbitrarily limit them? Because it's in tandem with all of the bad writing quirks above that make them undesirable sections to begin with: they're a cluster---- of random, badly organized tidbits of information consisting of weak observations that have no value to an encyclopedia and most of them would be interesting in their own right in the body article should there actually be a miscellaneous part.
Trivia sections tend to be lazily written, and so many times, editors who write in trivia sections find their edits getting reverted because the sections encourages poor edits and that there's no specific guideline in place to what exactly constitutes as a "good" trivia, not even the policy page itself is very specific and mostly relies on experienced editor judgment to make the call.
Over the past few days, I had been removing Trivia sections, making a point on how useless they really are, and only extremely few times I found it a bit more difficult to incorporate information, but even then, those information that I did found a bit difficult to implement elsewhere have strong work-arounds regardless. For examples, levels that have significant pre-release variants of them, those are worthy enough to have their own section in the game article devoted to it: short sections aren't necessarily a bad thing: if it's too short to sustain a section, they can easily be fit in the article's intros.
Best case study out there? Explore our Bad Jokes and Other Deleted Nonsense page. Observe how many of those have been the result of bad Trivia points. The infamous "[New Super Mario Bros. Wii] is a reference to the book Super Mario Bros. 3: Happy Birthday, Princess Toadstool!."? A bad trivia. I also remember sites like TheMushroomKingdom.net lambasted us for our use of the words such as "strangely" or ironically", and those are massly congregated in Trivia sections as well.
So, what my solution is? I think we should work towards removing Trivia sections entirely, incorporating all information they have into the main body. The strongest purpose they serve is to be a convenient spot for adding Did You Know Information, but that honestly isn't a strong argument for its existence, since it had housed horrible Trivia points before. Too many times are edits to Trivia sections counterproductive than they have been useful, and there's a reason Wikia wikis Trivia sections are horrendous eyesores as well as Trivia sections not being used in the most popular wiki, Wikipedia: because it runs to my points I've listed all above. If there's something actually interesting, it would be simply written as it is in the main article: after all, interesting information is a reason we draw readers for wiki articles to begin with, and the information we present are strong enough to hold on their own without needing a tacky, nonsequitur list of trivial (hah) factoids at the end of every article.
I was never really a huge fan of trivia sections in this wiki. Theoretically, they're supposed to be areas where you are supposed to plop interesting, miscellaneous information that cannot be fit elsewhere in the article, such as information from pre-release builds of the game, developer interviews, and maybe some easter eggs on courses. More often than not, they've been the target of a lot of nonsequitur, badly organized content with the following consistencies I tend to see them have:
This is the First Time seeing Toad and Toadette Barefoot
Low-quality observations that are easily convoluted and twisted beyond belief to have a significant meaning.
- The Melty Molten Galaxy has the distinction of being the only galaxy in the game that contains a Daredevil Comet level where a boss is not fought, despite the fact that this galaxy features Fiery Dino Piranha as a boss. This is also the only Daredevil Comet where the entire level needs to be completed.
- This is the only galaxy that has Star Chips in all three missions and the comet mission.
- The Yoshi Eggs are the only team where every team player uses an actual baseball bat when batting in both games.
- This is the only food related Mini boss.
- There are no episodes where all the Koopalings appear together.
- This is the first depiction of Yoshi with actual hands instead of paws.
- Captain Syrup was the first main female villain in the extended Mario franchise, coming before Cackletta, the Shadow Queen, and others.
- This is the only game in the overall main Super Mario series that has never been available for digital download.
- This is the only 3D Mariogame where Mario does not say "Thank you so much for playing my game!" at the end of the credits.
- Ironically, Link, the Male and Female Villagers and Isabelle also have the Mario symbol on their versions of the Splat Buggy, despite them coming from completely different series.
- The Green Sprixie Princess is the only playable character in Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash to not be playable in Mario Tennis Aces.
Yoshi is the reason why the famous Pokemon series is still here today.
Tied to references that are not actually there.
- The name "Gold Standard" may be in reference to the gold standardmonetary system, where the value of a currency is determined by a fixed amount of gold.
- Emoglobins may be emo, which their name confirms.
In the demo version of the game, luigi can be heard laughing in the background of the boss battle music. This feature does not happen in the real game. This may be subliminal marketing, annoying the player to the point of buying the game.
Bad speculation and observations.
- It is unknown how Peach got out of her birthday cake. One possible explanation is that she ate her way out of said cake.
- Bouldergeist closely resembles Bogmire from Luigi's Mansion, as they have the same facial features and are fought in a similar fashion, both having their own minionsbe used against them.
- The Boomsday Machine is very similar to the Undergrunt Gunners' tanks from the first game, from appearance, and the fact that the enemy sits in a glass cockpit at the top. The Boomsday Machine, however, resembles the Toy Time Galaxy's Undergrunt Gunner the most, as they both shoot plasma balls.
- Sorbetti's battle is similar to Bowser's battle on the first planet of Bowser's Galaxy Reactor in Super Mario Galaxy.
The Observatory is one of the only rooms with no Boos in it.
Statements that can easily be integrated into the body article somewhere.
- A Japan only arcade game developed by Capcom was released in 2011 called New Super Mario Bros. Wii Coin World.
- If Mario gains 99 lives, he will lose his cap.
- If Funky Kongrides on the Spear, its speed can surpass the Jetsetter's default speed by two points.
- Rollodillo shares its boss theme with Sorbetti, Prince Pikante, and Peewee Piranha.
- According to a 1993 Nintendo character guide, Mario is classified as "Homo nintendonus."[42]
- Since Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games, Coconut Mall's music has appeared in the Mario & Sonic series as a selectable song when participating in events.
- Among the things to buy to eat are Mushrooms (Red and Green), Fire Flowers, Bananas, and Starmen.
The Donkey Kong at this stage is Cranky Kong
Statements already made in the body article or in another article.
- The music used for the Yoshi Star is a remix of Superstar Mario's theme from Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island.
- Unlike most large enemies, if Mario is hit by its legs, he simply gets knocked away and takes damage instead of getting crushed.
- In the Wii version, 3 cars are in the parking lot. In the 3DS version, there are only 2.
Of course, this list isn't exhaustive, but 9 times out of 10, Trivia points seem to fall under one or more these trends listed above.
It's extremely telling we even have a policy page that specifically discourages use of them to begin with and we arbitrarily limit their length, in which practically no other area in the wiki has a limit this strict on the amount listed. Why do we arbitrarily limit them? Because it's in tandem with all of the bad writing quirks above that make them undesirable sections to begin with: they're a cluster---- of random, badly organized tidbits of information consisting of weak observations that have no value to an encyclopedia and most of them would be interesting in their own right in the body article should there actually be a miscellaneous part.
Trivia sections tend to be lazily written, and so many times, editors who write in trivia sections find their edits getting reverted because the sections encourages poor edits and that there's no specific guideline in place to what exactly constitutes as a "good" trivia, not even the policy page itself is very specific and mostly relies on experienced editor judgment to make the call.
Over the past few days, I had been removing Trivia sections, making a point on how useless they really are, and only extremely few times I found it a bit more difficult to incorporate information, but even then, those information that I did found a bit difficult to implement elsewhere have strong work-arounds regardless. For examples, levels that have significant pre-release variants of them, those are worthy enough to have their own section in the game article devoted to it: short sections aren't necessarily a bad thing: if it's too short to sustain a section, they can easily be fit in the article's intros.
Best case study out there? Explore our Bad Jokes and Other Deleted Nonsense page. Observe how many of those have been the result of bad Trivia points. The infamous "[New Super Mario Bros. Wii] is a reference to the book Super Mario Bros. 3: Happy Birthday, Princess Toadstool!."? A bad trivia. I also remember sites like TheMushroomKingdom.net lambasted us for our use of the words such as "strangely" or ironically", and those are massly congregated in Trivia sections as well.
So, what my solution is? I think we should work towards removing Trivia sections entirely, incorporating all information they have into the main body. The strongest purpose they serve is to be a convenient spot for adding Did You Know Information, but that honestly isn't a strong argument for its existence, since it had housed horrible Trivia points before. Too many times are edits to Trivia sections counterproductive than they have been useful, and there's a reason Wikia wikis Trivia sections are horrendous eyesores as well as Trivia sections not being used in the most popular wiki, Wikipedia: because it runs to my points I've listed all above. If there's something actually interesting, it would be simply written as it is in the main article: after all, interesting information is a reason we draw readers for wiki articles to begin with, and the information we present are strong enough to hold on their own without needing a tacky, nonsequitur list of trivial (hah) factoids at the end of every article.