Lee Chaolan
Oh, excellent!
I was waiting for someone to quote BiTF when the pic of the day was revealed.
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No. The joke was about transformations. Yoshi has nothing to do with it.Shy Guy said:Who is then eaten by another Kirby who gets eaten by a Yoshi and turns into an egg.GalacticPetey said:Who is then eaten by Kirby who then puts on a Deku Mask,Maᴙio said:It's Doopliss turning into Ditto that transformed into Mega Man, dummy.
I agree with 100%.GalacticPetey said:My unpopular opinion? I'd be perfectly fine if Dr. Mario came back. It would be great for people who played him in Melee to get their main back. And don't give me that crap that they could just "transition to Mario" Any experienced player will tell you that Dr. Mario and Mario (and all the clones) have different play styles. A Mario main can't just up and play Doc the same way he plays Mario right away.
Kart Player 2008 said:I'd say Roy is the only Melee clone who had a big playstyle difference from its basis character. The rest can adapt after an hour or two of playing and learning.
No, MOST, if not all, of Dr. Mario's moves have different properties.Kart Player 2008 said:I'd say Roy is the only Melee clone who had a big playstyle difference from its basis character. The rest can adapt after an hour or two of playing and learning.
I'd have to bring up Project M again, but Dr. Mario is treated as an alternate costume there, but he still shoots pills instead, and his f-smash is still electricity.GalacticPetey said:Pills are also better than fireballs.
Sakurai also said even the slightest difference in play style would turn an alternate costume into a character. Doc has two unique specials moves and unique f-smash, in addition to his cloned moves having different effects.
You could argue Doc could use fireballs, but Sakurai has even stated that Doc shooting fire would look odd. If Doc is in the game, he's gonna be his own character and not a costume.
Roy is a clone. Same move, same animations, but the attacks have different properties.Tuxedo Ridley said:It's been forever since I played Melee, but...Roy is a clone? For some reason, he's stuck out in my memory as having distinct differences from Marth.
That's PMBR, not Sakuari. The Project M development team has their own rules for alternate costumes.Maᴙio said:I'd have to bring up Project M again, but Dr. Mario is treated as an alternate costume there, but he still shoots pills instead, and his f-smash is still electricity.GalacticPetey said:Pills are also better than fireballs.
Sakurai also said even the slightest difference in play style would turn an alternate costume into a character. Doc has two unique specials moves and unique f-smash, in addition to his cloned moves having different effects.
You could argue Doc could use fireballs, but Sakurai has even stated that Doc shooting fire would look odd. If Doc is in the game, he's gonna be his own character and not a costume.
IT'S THE COLD HARD FACTS, MAN.Kart Player 2008 said:I once made a poll on Gamefaqs asking people how pissed off they would be if Dr. Mario returned from 0 (not pissed at all) to 9 (100% pissed) and most people said if he's an alternate costume, then 0 but if he's a separate character, 9.
Okay. And besides, I don't think Mario is tweaked to be a combination of himself and Doc, so Doc has more trouble meshing with Mario's playstyle.GalacticPetey said:That's PMBR, not Sakuari. The Project M development team has their own rules for alternate costumes.Maᴙio said:I'd have to bring up Project M again, but Dr. Mario is treated as an alternate costume there, but he still shoots pills instead, and his f-smash is still electricity.GalacticPetey said:Pills are also better than fireballs.
Sakurai also said even the slightest difference in play style would turn an alternate costume into a character. Doc has two unique specials moves and unique f-smash, in addition to his cloned moves having different effects.
You could argue Doc could use fireballs, but Sakurai has even stated that Doc shooting fire would look odd. If Doc is in the game, he's gonna be his own character and not a costume.
The issue isn't that it can't be done, the issue is that Sakurai doesn't want it to be done.
As for clones, Ganondorf is probably the most distant from his "parent character"
Gamefaqs is obviously the best way to survey gamers.Kart Player 2008 said:I once made a poll on Gamefaqs asking people how pissed off they would be if Dr. Mario returned from 0 (not pissed at all) to 9 (100% pissed) and most people said if he's an alternate costume, then 0 but if he's a separate character, 9.
GalacticPetey said:As for clones, Ganondorf is probably the most distant from his "parent character"
He is the namesake of "Luigification".Ninelevendo said:Luigi is probably the most distant nowdays tho.
Brawl at least made him a semi-clone. I'm praying that Smash 4 makes him a completely unique character.Baby Luigi said:GalacticPetey said:As for clones, Ganondorf is probably the most distant from his "parent character"
...I still don't like how Brawl has said "---- this, let's keep him clone-y and make him terrible. good for the lord of evil to be the worst character in the game"
He's been a semi-clone since Melee. I don't group him with the Melee clones like Roy and Pichu.Ninelevendo said:Luigi is probably the most distant nowdays tho.
Maᴙio said:He is the namesake of "Luigification".Ninelevendo said:Luigi is probably the most distant nowdays tho.
I don't really see the term used, probably the less colorful "semi-clone", but yeah.