ernesth100
The Traveler, The Genius, The Scholar
Re: The Official Dragon Ball/Z/GT/Kai Thread
What do you think they'll use for Cells personality?
What do you think they'll use for Cells personality?
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ernesth100 said:What do you think they'll use for Cells personality?
I think they're going to make his first form completely serious and creepy. Then his second form is going to be a complete joke. His perfect form will probably extremely gay and flamboyant.ernesth100 said:What do you think they'll use for Cells personality?
If I am truly evil let god strike me down right now.Zae Roles said:ernesth100 said:What do you think they'll use for Cells personality?
not sure
i just hope its going to be good as frieza.
abridged frieza is fantastic.
I know this is a highly controversial opinion and I'm expecting this to get downvoted into the ground, but I just want people to read this. In my opinion, Dragon Ball Z Kai is far and away the best version of the series. There are several aspects that I wish to bring up.
The first is the pacing. Kai is much, much, much better paced than the original show. The original was very slow. Goku's fight with Frieza is a great example. I love that fight, but it goes on way too long in DBZ. Seriously, four hours! Kai cuts down the length of the fight and I still get the same, if not more enjoyment out of it. The needless filler being cut was also a godsend. Makes everything flow smoother. The removal of filler also makes it more accurate to the manga, which is great.
Then there's the voice acting, specifically the dub. It is so much better in Kai. The new voices are good several reasons. First of all, everyone's acting has greatly improved. The original dub is unbearably bad in some parts, most notably in the Frieza saga. Seriosly, compare the acting in this scene, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-hWFQ5utZE, with the Kai version, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McNvFXX82Q4. The new voices also added much more variety. Christopher Sabat no longer voices half the characters. In the original dub, the repeated use of his voice was painfully obvious. Here, the added variety makes it feel more natural.
Perhaps the most controversial voice change with Frieza. Not to knock Linda Young, but Chris Ayers' Frieza is far and away the superior version. His Frieza sounds much more cold, evil, threatening, and less like an old lady. He is legitimately terrifying in some scenes. Another voice change with a lot of controversy is Gohan. I for one like his new young voice. He actually sounds like a six year old, like he's supposed to. Though I will admit, Teen Gohan's voice probably should have been different.
Music is another point I wish to bring up. I was not a fan of the original Yamamoto score for Kai. However, after the plagiarism involving him, they went back to the original Japanese score. I loved this change. Now, I really like Bruce Faulconer's score. A lot of people complain that his music sounds like generic heavy metal, but some tracks like the Spirit Bomb and Heaven Sent Trunks are very good pieces. However, my one problem with it was that it NEVER. STOPPED. PLAYING. Sometimes, silence is much more effective than constant music. The scene I posted earlier is a good example. In Kai, after Kami and Piccolo fuse, there is pure silence as Piccolo walks away and gets ready to go fight Cell. In the original, that song is blasting in your face.
So that was my big rant about Kai vs. The original. Don't get me wrong, I love the original show, but Kai just does it better. I think most people are blinded by nostalgia for the original show.
Oh, and before anyone screams "kai sucks! it haz no blood!", that's just the TV versions. The DVD version has all the uncut blood, swearing, and nudity that people claim that Kai doesn't have.
ernesth100 said:So anyways I really hope they decide to continue atleast for a couple of episodes and make GT canon. How the heck is GT not canon again?
Kai is superior if you're looking for pacing and all that goodness, but some of the original filler was gold :y
Then...why, and how did they air it?Zae Roles said:ernesth100 said:So anyways I really hope they decide to continue atleast for a couple of episodes and make GT canon. How the heck is GT not canon again?
pretty sure toriyama didnt count it as canon
ernesth100 said:Then...why, and how did they air it?Zae Roles said:ernesth100 said:So anyways I really hope they decide to continue atleast for a couple of episodes and make GT canon. How the heck is GT not canon again?
pretty sure toriyama didnt count it as canon
ernesth100 said:I...then thats just false advertising. Airing movies and episodes under the name of the show only to find out they have nothing to do with the show and therefore are completely irrelevant to the plot.
Wait, what movies are non canon?Zae Roles said:ernesth100 said:I...then thats just false advertising. Airing movies and episodes under the name of the show only to find out they have nothing to do with the show and therefore are completely irrelevant to the plot.
welcome to the universe of dragonball
I've noticed. I don't know about anyone else, but I personally find the Japanese score to be incredibly overrated. Aside from maybe a few songs (that weren't recycled from Dragon Ball), there are next to no tracks that were truly memorable and/or fit the scenes in the way they were supposed to. Honestly, I feel that this score gets far too much credit, simply because it's the "original" soundtrack. In other words, if Faulconer's score existed first, rather than the Japanese score, it wouldn't be getting all the unnecessary hate that it gets. Ugh, the Japanese version purists... The only people worse than them are Ocean dub fanboys.A lot of people complain that [Bruce Faulconer]'s music sounds like generic heavy metal
ernesth100 said:Wait, what movies are non canon?Zae Roles said:ernesth100 said:I...then thats just false advertising. Airing movies and episodes under the name of the show only to find out they have nothing to do with the show and therefore are completely irrelevant to the plot.
welcome to the universe of dragonball
I myself like Faulconer's score, except for the fact that it's constantly playing. There is never a moment of silence.Bat King Antasma said:I've noticed. I don't know about anyone else, but I personally find the Japanese score to be incredibly overrated. Aside from maybe a few songs (that weren't recycled from Dragon Ball), there are next to no tracks that were truly memorable and/or fit the scenes in the way they were supposed to. Honestly, I feel that this score gets far too much credit, simply because it's the "original" soundtrack. In other words, if Faulconer's score existed first, rather than the Japanese score, it wouldn't be getting all the unnecessary hate that it gets. Ugh, the Japanese version purists... The only people worse than them are Ocean dub fanboys.A lot of people complain that [Bruce Faulconer]'s music sounds like generic heavy metal
Yeah, that line was a classic. That would have been a pretty good backstory for the Moon Blast technique if Vegeta hadn't claimed that Bardock was a scientist. In all fairness, though, that episode aired about three years before Bardock: The Father of Goku was dubbed and released on DVD, and six years before the Toonami airing.GalacticPetey said:Let's not forget that Bardock was an average fighter, but was a brilliant scientist.
Bardock's a scientist?Bat King Antasma said:Yeah, that line was a classic. That would have been a pretty good backstory for the Moon Blast technique if Vegeta hadn't claimed that Bardock was a scientist. In all fairness, though, that episode aired about three years before Bardock: The Father of Goku was dubbed and released on DVD, and six years before the Toonami airing.GalacticPetey said:Let's not forget that Bardock was an average fighter, but was a brilliant scientist.