MARIO AWARDS II REVISION

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Wayoshi

PM Pro
Here are the revisions we made to the awards today, 4/3: we went through all 30 awards and decided which ones needed to be nuked completely, changed a little, revised, or easy keep. I will make a new post (new this year) for each meetings' actions. deletion, undecided / condition

1. Favorite Game Soundtrack (Original) (Super Mario Bros, Yoshi’s Island, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Super Mario 64, Super Mario World, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Paper Mario)
2. Favorite Mario Party Game (Mario Party 1-3, Mario Party Advance, Mario Party 4-7, Mario Party 8, Mario Party DS) barely kept, 6-5
3. Favorite Mario Kart Game (Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64, Mario Kart Super Circuit, Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Mario Kart DS, Mario Kart Wii)
4. Favorite Mario Platformer (Super Mario Bros 1-3, Super Mario World, New Super Mario Bros, Super Paper Mario) Uniju suggested splitting into Fav 2D Platformer and Fav 3D Platformer
5. Favorite Obscure Game (Mario Paint, Hotel Mario, Dr Mario 64, Mario Picross, Yoshi’s Safari, Mario Clash, Wario Blast)
6. Favorite DK Game (Donkey Kong Country 1-3, Donkey Kong 64, Diddy Kong Racing, Donkey Kong: King of Swing, Donkey Kong Wii)
7. Favorite Wario(Ware) Game (Wario Land Series [1-4 + VB], Mega Microgames/Party Games, Twisted, Touched, Smooth Moves, Master of Disguise)
8. Game with Best Online Experience (Mario Kart DS, Mario Strikers Charged, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Mario Kart Wii)
9. Favorite Yoshi Game (Yoshi’s Island, Yoshi’s Island DS, Tetris Attack, Yoshi’s Story, Yoshi Touch & Go, Yoshi’s Cookie, Yoshi)
10. Best Other Medium (Super Mario Bros. Super Show, Adventures of SMB3, Super Mario World, Super Mario Bros. (Valient comics), Super Mario Bros. The Movie, Donkey Kong Country)
11. Favorite Major Character (Mario, Luigi, Toad, Peach, Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong, Bowser) <-- as opposed to "Big 8", now a fanon term
12. Favorite Minor Character (Daisy, Waluigi, Birdo, Toadette, Toadsworth, Diddy Kong, Bowser Jr., Petey Piranha)
13. Favorite Koopaling (Larry, Morton Jr., Wendy, Iggy, Roy, Lemmy, Ludwig)
14. Favorite Enemy (Goombas, Koopas, Lakitus, Cheep Cheeps, Boos, Piranha Plants, Shy Guys, Bloopers)
15. Hardest Boss (Shadow Queen, Bonetail, Giga Bowser, Cackletta, Culex, Elder Princess Shroob, Bowser (PM), Shadoo, Tabuu)
16. Favorite Power-Up (Mushroom, Fire Flower, P-Wing, Starman, Kuribo’s Shoe, Feather, Hammer Suit)
17. Favorite MK Item (Red Shell, Blue Shell, Star, Lightning, Boo, Fake Item Box, Mushroom, Mega Mushroom) Trim down? Some felt this was too much focus on an individual series.
18. Favorite Mario RPG (SMRPG, PM, M&L:SS, PM2, M&L:piT)
19. Favorite Pixl (Tippi, Boomer, Thudley, Carrie, Cudge, Barry, Dashell, Piccolo) Combine w/ PM Partner OR delete?
20. Favorite SSB Veteran (Mario, Kirby, Link, Fox McCloud, Samus, Donkey Kong, Pikachu, Yoshi) Add newcomers, replace with newcomers, delete?
21. Favorite Puzzle Game (Dr. Mario, Yoshi's Cookie, Tetris Attack, Wario's Woods)
22. Best Remake (Super Mario All-Stars, Super Mario Bros. DX, Super Mario 64 DS, Super Mario Advance series, Diddy Kong Racing DS) Only 6-3 majority
23. Favorite Sports Game (Mario Tennis (N64), Mario Golf Toadstool Tour, Mario Power Tennis, Mario Superstar Baseball, Mario Strikers Charged, Mario Hoops 3-on-3)
24. Most Innovative Concept/Game (Super Mario Bros, Flying (SMB3), Yoshi (SMW), Throwin Eggs (YI), Super Mario 64, Bros. Attacks (M&L:SS), Dimension Flip (SPM), Gravity (Super Mario Galaxy)) Likely to get rid of game aspect
25. Favorite Spin-Off Game (Luigi’s Mansion, Super Princess Peach, Mario & Wario, Wario’s Woods, Mario is Missing)
26. Favorite PM Partner (Kooper, Bombette, Lady Bow, Lakilester, Goombella, Yoshi (kid), Vivian, Bobbery, Ms. Mowz) Combine w/ Pixl and/or split by game?
27. Best Secret (Special Zone (SMW), Top Secret Area (SMW), Warp Zone (SMB3), Luigi’s Diary (PM), Ms. Mowz (PM2), Grand Finale Galaxy (SMG), Worlds 9/A-D (Lost Levels)) make sure all are true secrets
28. Favorite Mini-boss (Fawful, Popple, Mr. L, Kamek, Jr. Troopa, Birdo, Bowser Jr.)
29. Favorite Place (Mushroom Kingdom, Dinosaur Land, Beanbean Kingdom, Rogueport & Other Areas, Flipside & Other Areas, Bowser’s Castle)
30. Favorite Game (Super Mario Bros., Yoshi's Island, Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario World, Super Mario 64, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga, Super Mario Galaxy)



Those who weren't at the meeting can now comment on the red/blue above. Nothing is final yet, but will be finalized next week if there is no major change in opinion on this thread, so please speak out if you object to anything. Those at the meeting can also make their case, especially if they are in a minority that got voted out at something. :)
 

Luigifreak

OH YEAH!!! WALUIGI TIME!!!!
okay here are my opinions on undecided ones and such

2. we must keep, it is a vital part to series
4. i feel we could add a new catergory on 3d game
17. at least delete mega mushroom and maybe boo.
19. yes, take 2 or 3 top partners from each pm and combine to 1 poll
20. i say delete, but replacing w/ newcomers is okay for variety
22. I say delete. just doesnt look that good.
26. see 19.
27. yeah, revise.

i will bring up these on the next meeting. :posh: :luigi:
 

King Boo

"I'm definitely NOT doing this to help you, Pit."
2. Since the majority said keep, keep it.
4. Uniju has the right idea. 2D and 3D are too different to keep in one category. Separate.
17. Either trim down, or delete.
19. Round up the results from last year, and put the favorites from the other Paper Mario games, then add the Pixls.
20. Replace with Newcomers.
22. Delete. Remakes aren't different enough from the original to deserve their own category.
26. Same as 19.
27. Revise.

EDIT: I'm Master Lucario, btw.
 

Hobbes

Star Spirit
Core 'Shroom Staff
Poll Committee
Retired Wiki Staff
some ideas:

*Favorite non-videogame media
*Favorite Partner
*Favorite Ending
*LESS Favorite Character
 

Stooben Rooben

Star Spirit
Chat Administrator
Core 'Shroom Staff
Retired Wiki Staff
2. Keep it. It's a vital part of the Mario series.
4. Separate them into 2D and 3D platformers.
17. Trim it to the basics. Mushroom, Green Shell, Red Shell, Star, Thunderbolt, Spiny Shell.
19. Narrow it down to nine partners: the first from each three, (Goombario, Goombella, and Tippi), the partner with the highest stats. (Like Bobbery), then the best unlockable partner. (Piccolo, Ms. Mowz, etc.)
20. How about have favorite veteran, and then favorite newcomer?
22. Keep it. Some remakes had extra features, or broke the ground for gaming in a certain country. (SMAS was the first release of TLL in NA.)
26. Refer to #19.
27. Revise and add a spoiler tag.
 

Jesus Freak

King Bowser
IMO:

delete keep modify

1. Delete. Geeky question.
2. Hey, that's a pretty good idea! :tumble:
3. Eh, na.
4. Uni's right. Split.
5. You. Have. Got. To. Be. Kidding. Me. Too obscure. Goodbye, Mr.Bond.
6. Well, this one.................... stinks.......................
7. x) :tumble:
8. See #1 and #5.

9. :yoshi: Yoshi! Yoshi? Yoshi. (<- Inside joke.)
10. Stinkeroo.
11. Susan likey :D
12. :tumble:
13. :p
14. Uh, NO.
15. Get Shadoo outa there.
16. Removeth the shoeth.
17. BLAH.
18. :D
19. :tumble:
20. Replace with newcomers.
21. Eh, na.
22. :p
23. ;D
24. Maybe most (long word that I don't think I can spell) concept instead of game?
25 and 26. :yoshi:
27. :p
28. :D
29. :cool:
30. You forgot the word "Mainstream"

Also, I motion that we put in a favorite female villian.
 

King Boo

"I'm definitely NOT doing this to help you, Pit."
Jesus Freak said:
IMO:

delete keep modify

1. Delete. Geeky question.
2. Hey, that's a pretty good idea! :tumble:
3. Eh, na.
4. Uni's right. Split.
5. You. Have. Got. To. Be. Kidding. Me. Too obscure. Goodbye, Mr.Bond.
6. Well, this one.................... stinks.......................
7. x) :tumble:
8. See #1 and #5.

9. :yoshi: Yoshi! Yoshi? Yoshi. (<- Inside joke.)
10. Stinkeroo.
11. Susan likey :D
12. :tumble:
13. :p
14. Uh, NO.
15. Get Shadoo outa there.
16. Removeth the shoeth.
17. BLAH.
18. :D
19. :tumble:
20. Replace with newcomers.
21. Eh, na.
22. :p
23. ;D
24. Maybe most (long word that I don't think I can spell) concept instead of game?
25 and 26. :yoshi:
27. :p
28. :D
29. :cool:
30. You forgot the word "Mainstream"

Also, I motion that we put in a favorite female villian.
Female villains are up there. Cackletta and Shadow Queen. And Nastasia is never fought.

Donkey Kong Wii needs to be taken out. It never came out, and probably got cancelled.
 

Jesus Freak

King Bowser
Sir Lancelot said:
1.) Female villains are up there. Cackletta and Shadow Queen.

2.) And Nastasia is never fought.
Code:
1.) I meant a separate award.

2.) I meant in general.
Till we next cross paths,
Susan

 

Wayoshi

PM Pro
I am happy to announce the following progress from tonight:

A)
-A2: Fav Mario Party has been kept.
-A4 will become two awards, one of which will replace A5.

B)
We went through the first half of awards, one by one, to make changes. These are not yet final, and there are two conflicts we want extra input on / put off for a fresh session (A1/A14):

added, deleted, comment


1. Favorite Game Soundtrack (Original) (Super Mario Bros, Yoshi’s Island, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Super Mario 64, Super Mario World, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Paper Mario) (SMRPG replacing SPM and/or adding PM?)
2. Favorite Mario Party Game (Mario Party, Mario Party 2, Mario Party 3, Mario Party 4, Mario Party 5, Mario Party Advance, Mario Party 6, Mario Party 7, Mario Party 8, Mario Part DS) (going back to original set)
3. Favorite Mario Kart Game (Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64, Mario Kart Super Circuit, Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Mario Kart DS, Mario Kart Wii)
4. Favorite Mario Platformer (2D) (Super Mario Bros 1-3, Super Mario Bros 2, Super Mario Bros 3, Super Mario Land, Super Mario World, Super Mario Land 2, New Super Mario Bros, Super Paper Mario)
5. Favorite Mario Platformer (3D) (Super Mario 64, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Paper Mario)
6. Favorite DK Game (Donkey Kong Country 1-3, Donkey Kong Country 2, Donkey Kong Country 3, Donkey Kong 64, Diddy Kong Racing, Donkey Kong: King of Swing, Donkey Kong Wii)
7. Favorite Wario Game (Wario Land Series [1-4], Wario Land 2, Wario Land 3, Wario Land 4, Mega Microgames/Party Games, Twisted, Touched, Smooth Moves, Master of Disguise, Shake It)
8. Series with Best Multiplayer Experience (Mario Party, Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros, Mario Golf, Mario Baseball, Mario Tennis)
9. Favorite Yoshi Game (Yoshi’s Island, Yoshi’s Island DS, Tetris Attack, Yoshi’s Story, Yoshi Touch & Go, Yoshi’s Cookie, Yoshi)
10. Best Other Medium (Super Mario Bros. Super Show, Adventures of SMB3, Super Mario World, Super Mario Bros. (Valient comics), Super Mario Bros. The Movie, Donkey Kong Country)
11. Favorite Major Character (Mario, Luigi, Toad, Peach, Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong, Bowser)
12. Favorite Minor Character (Daisy, Waluigi, Birdo, Toadette, Toadsworth, Diddy Kong, Bowser Jr., Petey Piranha)
13. Favorite Koopaling (Larry, Morton Jr., Wendy, Iggy, Roy, Lemmy, Ludwig)
14. Favorite Enemy (Goombas, Koopas, Lakitus, Cheep Cheeps, Boos, Piranha Plants, Shy Guys, Bloopers) (Chain Chomps, Thwomps, Bob-ombs; combining Lakitus and Koopas into just Koopas?)
15. Hardest Boss (Shadow Queen, Bonetail, Giga Bowser, Cackletta, Culex, Elder Princess Shroob, Bowser (PM), Shadoo, Tabuu)


A5. Uniju's idea to split
A8. Master Lucario
 

ralphfan

Thank you based god
I was thinking we should have a whole set of "worst" awards. You know, things like worst system; game; character; boss; plot, stuff like that. I could present the awards and make a script (but that's a long way away, right?). Hope you get my point and see eye-to-eye with me.

ralphfan (el t0rtug0)
 

ralphfan

Thank you based god
1) Add SMRPG; keep SPM; add the original PM.

14) Add them all; delete Lakitus; Lakitus and Koopas are two separate things; Lakitus aren't very prominent enemies.

ralphfan (el t0rtug0)
 

Wayoshi

PM Pro
Boy, these "Anti-Awards" as Tucayo calls them seem to have some support...but there's only so much time we have...I'll have an answer on Friday on this matter.
 

Stooben Rooben

Star Spirit
Chat Administrator
Core 'Shroom Staff
Retired Wiki Staff
Wayoshi said:
Boy, these "Anti-Awards" as Tucayo calls them seem to have some support...but there's only so much time we have...I'll have an answer on Friday on this matter.
I think they're a good idea as well. I fully back up the concept.
 

Hobbes

Star Spirit
Core 'Shroom Staff
Poll Committee
Retired Wiki Staff
Thanks to all of the people who support them, maybe we should take them in consideration the next meeting!
 

Wayoshi

PM Pro
There was a lot of opposition in chat tonight to it, but not enough people to really make a vote on it...
 

Stooben Rooben

Star Spirit
Chat Administrator
Core 'Shroom Staff
Retired Wiki Staff
Aw, I had just made it into chat when I found out the meeting was cancelled.
 

Hobbes

Star Spirit
Core 'Shroom Staff
Poll Committee
Retired Wiki Staff
Werent you going to put a poll for anti awards, Wayo?
 

Wayoshi

PM Pro
We deleted SPM and added PM & SMRPG in A1, and added all 3 species in A14 and removed Lakitus (or merged).

A16-25 was done tonight:

16. Favorite Power-Up (Mushroom, Fire Flower, Ice Flower, P-Wing, Starman, Kuribo’s Shoe, Feather, Hammer Suit, Mega Mushroom, Wing Cap, Metal Cap)
17. Favorite MK Item (Red Shell, Blue Shell, Star, Lightning, Boo, Fake Item Box, Golden Mushroom, Mega Mushroom)
18. Favorite Mario RPG (SMRPG, PM, M&L:SS, PM2, M&L:piT)
19. Favorite Pixl (Tippi, Boomer, Thudley, Carrie, Cudge, Barry, Dashell, Piccolo)
20. Favorite SSB Veteran (Mario, Kirby, Link, Fox McCloud, Samus, Donkey Kong, Pikachu, Yoshi)
21. Favorite SSBB Newcomer (Wario, Sonic, Meta Knight, Snake, Wolf, Lucario, ROB, Dedede)
22. Best Remake (Super Mario All-Stars, Super Mario Bros. DX, Super Mario 64 DS, Super Mario Advance series, Diddy Kong Racing DS)
23. Favorite Sports Game (Mario Tennis (N64), Mario Golf Toadstool Tour, Mario Power Tennis, Mario Superstar Baseball, Mario Strikers Charged, Mario Hoops 3-on-3, Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games)
24. Most Innovative Concept/Game (Super Mario Bros, Flying (SMB3), Yoshi (SMW), Throwin Eggs (YI), Super Mario 64, Bros. Attacks (M&L:SS), Dimension Flip (SPM), Gravity (SMG))
25. Favorite Spin-Off Game (Luigi’s Mansion, Super Princess Peach, Mario & Wario, Wario’s Woods, Mario is Missing)

Ideas for A19 now welcome. Pixls simply aren't the same as the partners in the rest of the series, so...yeah.
 

Stooben Rooben

Star Spirit
Chat Administrator
Core 'Shroom Staff
Retired Wiki Staff
Sorry I missed the meeting AGAIN, Wayo. I'm really not sure how many more of these my mom will let me have the computer for. >_>

Anyway, I'm perfectly fine with all the changes made above.

Suggestions for A19:

*Favorite Animal Buddy
*Favorite Baby Character
*Favorite DK Enemy
*Favorite Game & Watch Game
*Favorite Series
*Favorite DK Character
*Favorite Wario Character
 

ralphfan

Thank you based god
I understand your point on the Pixls. Other award ideas:
  • Favorite Baby Character
  • Favorite Wario Character
  • Favorite Kong (other than DK?)
 

Jesus Freak

King Bowser
Wayoshi said:
We deleted SPM and added PM & SMRPG in A1, and added all 3 species in A14 and removed Lakitus (or merged).

A16-25 was done tonight:

16. Favorite Power-Up (Mushroom, Fire Flower, Ice Flower, P-Wing, Starman, Kuribo’s Shoe, Feather, Hammer Suit, Mega Mushroom, Wing Cap, Metal Cap)
17. Favorite MK Item (Red Shell, Blue Shell, Star, Lightning, Boo, Fake Item Box, Golden Mushroom, Mega Mushroom)
18. Favorite Mario RPG (SMRPG, PM, M&L:SS, PM2, M&L:piT)
19. Favorite Pixl (Tippi, Boomer, Thudley, Carrie, Cudge, Barry, Dashell, Piccolo)
20. Favorite SSB Veteran (Mario, Kirby, Link, Fox McCloud, Samus, Donkey Kong, Pikachu, Yoshi)
21. Favorite SSBB Newcomer (Wario, Sonic, Meta Knight, Snake, Wolf, Lucario, ROB, Dedede)
22. Best Remake (Super Mario All-Stars, Super Mario Bros. DX, Super Mario 64 DS, Super Mario Advance series, Diddy Kong Racing DS)
23. Favorite Sports Game (Mario Tennis (N64), Mario Golf Toadstool Tour, Mario Power Tennis, Mario Superstar Baseball, Mario Strikers Charged, Mario Hoops 3-on-3, Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games)
24. Most Innovative Concept/Game (Super Mario Bros, Flying (SMB3), Yoshi (SMW), Throwin Eggs (YI), Super Mario 64, Bros. Attacks (M&L:SS), Dimension Flip (SPM), Gravity (SMG))
25. Favorite Spin-Off Game (Luigi’s Mansion, Super Princess Peach, Mario & Wario, Wario’s Woods, Mario is Missing)

Ideas for A19 now welcome. Pixls simply aren't the same as the partners in the rest of the series, so...yeah.
Fave WarioWare employee?
 

King Boo

"I'm definitely NOT doing this to help you, Pit."
My idea for A19 is this.

A19. Favorite Non-Mario Series (Pokemon, Zelda, Kirby, Metroid, Sonic)
 

Wayoshi

PM Pro
12. Favorite Minor Character (Daisy, Waluigi, Birdo, Baby Mario, Baby Luigi, Toadette, Toadsworth, Diddy Kong, Bowser Jr., Petey Piranha)
19. Favorite Series (Mario, Donkey Kong, Yoshi, Wario, Super Smash Bros.)
26. Favorite PM Partner (Kooper, Bombette, Lady Bow, Watt, Lakilester, Goombella, Yoshi (kid), Vivian, Bobbery, Ms. Mowz)
27. Best Coolest Secret (Special Zone (SMW), Top Secret Area (SMW), Warp Zone (SMB3), Luigi’s Diary (PM), Ms. Mowz (PM2), Grand Finale Galaxy (SMG), Worlds 9/A-D (Lost Levels))
28. Favorite Mini-boss (Fawful, Popple, Kamek, Rawk Hawk, Mr. L, Jr. Troopa, Birdo, Bowser Jr.)
29. Favorite Place (Mushroom Kingdom, Subcon, Dinosaur Land, Yoshi's Island, Isle Delfino, Beanbean Kingdom, Rogueport & Other Areas, Flipside & Flopside & Other Areas, Bowser’s Castle, Outer Space)
30. Favorite Game (Super Mario Bros., Yoshi’s Island, Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario World, New Super Mario Bros., Super Mario 64, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga, Super Mario Galaxy)

That should relatively do it for this year. Next week will be Userpedia Awards
 
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