Copied GTR Guesses

Anton

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While counting out points for GTR I noticed that Smg2daisy has the exact same guesses for every awards as Cirdec does, barring their respective presentation spots.

Cirdec said:
Ok. Pink Gold Peach should not be in Worst Character.

AwardsGoldSilverBronze
Mario Awards
A1Super Mario GalaxyMario Kart 8Super Mario Galaxy 2
A2Mario Kart 8Mario Kart WiiMario Kart: Double Dash!!
A3Super Mario 3D WorldSuper Mario GalaxySuper Mario Galaxy 2
A4Rainbow's Road (N64)Mute CityMount Wario
A5Donkey Kong Country: Tropical FreezeDonkey Kong Country Returns/Donkey Kong Country Returns 3DDonkey Kong 64
A6D. I. Y.Game & WarioSmooth Moves
A7Yoshi's IslandYoshi's Woolly WorldYoshi's Island DS
A8Yoshi's Woolly WorldSuper Mario GalaxyMario & Luigi
A9Super Mario MakerMario & Luigi: Paper JamYoshi's Woolly World
A10HAL LaboratoryNamco Bandai GamesIntelligent Systems
A11RosalinaLuigiYoshi
A12ToadBowser Jr.Waluigi
A13Throwback GalaxyGood Egg GalaxyGrandmaster Galaxy
A14YoshisToadsShy Guys
A15Shadow QueenBowser XDreamy Bowser
A16Cat Suit/Super BellTanooki Suit/Super LeafCape Feather
A17Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year DoorMario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside StoryMario & Luigi: Dream Team
A18Mario Party 10Mario Party 9Mario Party 8
A19PRESENTING
A20Mario Super SluggersMario Sports MixMario Strikers Charged
A21Captain Toad: Treasure TrackerMario vs. Donkey Kong (series)Dr. Mario (series)
A22LudwigLemmyIggy
A23Donkey KongDiddy KongFunky Kong
A24Wario9-Volt & 18-VoltAshley & Red
A25Tick Tock ClockBob-Omb BattlefieldWhomp's Fortress
A26Mount Must DashDouble Cherry PassSuper Bell Hill
A27Rawk Hawk (PM: TTYD)Motley BossblobMagnus von Grapple + 2.0 (PM: TTYD)
A28Mushroom Kingdom (Paper Mario)Comet ObservatoryIsle Delfino
A29Super Mario WorldSuper Mario Bros. 3Super Mario Bros.
A30Super Smash Bros. for 3DS/Wii UMario Kart 8Super Mario 3D World
Fail Awards
F1Pink Gold PeachBaby RosalinaBirdo
F2PRESENTING
F3Blue ShellCoin (Mario Kart)Thunder Cloud
F4KerstiGoombarioPiccolo
F5Autoscrolling levelsPurple Coin levelRolling Ball galaxies
F6Mario Party AdvanceMario Pinball LandMario Party 10
F7CursyaBig Bertha/Cheep ChompLakitu
F8Rainbow Road (SNES)Rainbow Road (Wii)Banshee Boardwalk
F9Peach Blossom (Peach)Puff Up (Jigglypuff)Dream Home (Villager)
F10Sitckers (PM:SS)Joystick Twirling (Mario Party)Limited Inventory (PM/PM:TTYD/SPM)
F11Underproducing amiiboSuper Mario Spikers cancellationPaper Mario: Sticker Star early build
F12Completing every level with every character (SM3DW)One Million Coins (NSMB2)Rabbits (SM64DS)
F13Bowser (SMG2)Cloud N CandyBowser (SMS)
F14The Toxic Waterfall/Lily Pad Ride (SMS)Banshee Boardwalk (MK64)Corona Mountain (SMS)
F15Mario is Missing!Mario Teaches Typing 1&2Paper Mario: Sticker Star
Userpedia Awards
U1RandomYoshiBop1996Tucayo
U2Toadbert’s Riveting Tale of his Trip to the GroceryPokemon Black and White - Wiki EditionLily Troof: Ace Attorney
U3I Heard You Have A Dragon Problem?Space Pizzas ate MondayTales from the Moon
U4Mr. EdoSmasherNeptune
U5Mr. EdoWalkazoSmg2daisy
U6U4 - Favorite User Design (tb and tfp)S2 - Favorite Team (Anton)Worst Mario Party Board (Gamefreak75)
U7The Official Mariowiki Game Night ThreadAwards CeremonyAwards Mafia
U8Mother 3 Mafia (DragonFreak)MW Werewolf: Take IV (Stooben)Ace Attorney Mafia (GBAToad)
U9MafiaBoard Game OnlineCards Against Humanity
U10AntonSmasherPorplemontage
'Shroom Awards
S1Super Mario Bros.TucayoStooben
S2Fake NewsCritic CornerFun Stuff
S3Super Mario Bros.P_YGBAToad
S4TucayoCoincollectorStooben
S5MrConcreteDonkeyToadbert101Yoshi876
S6AntonWalkazoAndymii
S7Peddler’s Place (Toadbert101)Dear Anton (Anton)Various Fake News entries (MCD)
S8909588
S9649075
S10Super Mario Bros.Mr. EdoMCD

Smg2daisy said:
AwardsGoldSilverBronze
Mario Awards
A1Super Mario GalaxyMario Kart 8Super Mario Galaxy 2
A2Mario Kart 8Mario Kart WiiMario Kart: Double Dash!!
A3Super Mario 3D WorldSuper Mario GalaxySuper Mario Galaxy 2
A4Rainbow's Road (N64)Mute CityMount Wario
A5Donkey Kong Country: Tropical FreezeDonkey Kong Country Returns/Donkey Kong Country Returns 3DDonkey Kong 64
A6D. I. Y.Game & WarioSmooth Moves
A7Yoshi's IslandYoshi's Woolly WorldYoshi's Island DS
A8Yoshi's Woolly WorldSuper Mario GalaxyMario & Luigi
A9Super Mario MakerMario & Luigi: Paper JamYoshi's Woolly World
A10HAL LaboratoryNamco Bandai GamesIntelligent Systems
A11RosalinaLuigiYoshi
A12ToadBowser Jr.Waluigi
A13swag.mov
A14YoshisToadsShy Guys
A15Shadow QueenBowser XDreamy Bowser
A16Cat Suit/Super BellTanooki Suit/Super LeafCape Feather
A17Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year DoorMario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside StoryMario & Luigi: Dream Team
A18Mario Party 10Mario Party 9Mario Party 8
A19LuigiKirbyMario
A20Mario Super SluggersMario Sports MixMario Strikers Charged
A21Captain Toad: Treasure TrackerMario vs. Donkey Kong (series)Dr. Mario (series)
A22LudwigLemmyIggy
A23Donkey KongDiddy KongFunky Kong
A24Wario9-Volt & 18-VoltAshley & Red
A25Tick Tock ClockBob-Omb BattlefieldWhomp's Fortress
A26Mount Must DashDouble Cherry PassSuper Bell Hill
A27Rawk Hawk (PM: TTYD)Motley BossblobMagnus von Grapple + 2.0 (PM: TTYD)
A28Mushroom Kingdom (Paper Mario)Comet ObservatoryIsle Delfino
A29Super Mario WorldSuper Mario Bros. 3Super Mario Bros.
A30Super Smash Bros. for 3DS/Wii UMario Kart 8Super Mario 3D World
Fail Awards
F1Pink Gold PeachBaby RosalinaBirdo
F2King Boo's Haunted HideawayToad RoadPeach's Birthday Cake
F3Blue ShellCoin (Mario Kart)Thunder Cloud
F4KerstiGoombarioPiccolo
F5Autoscrolling levelsPurple Coin levelRolling Ball galaxies
F6Mario Party AdvanceMario Pinball LandMario Party 10
F7CursyaBig Bertha/Cheep ChompLakitu
F8Rainbow Road (SNES)Rainbow Road (Wii)Banshee Boardwalk
F9Peach Blossom (Peach)Puff Up (Jigglypuff)Dream Home (Villager)
F10Sitckers (PM:SS)Joystick Twirling (Mario Party)Limited Inventory (PM/PM:TTYD/SPM)
F11Underproducing amiiboSuper Mario Spikers cancellationPaper Mario: Sticker Star early build
F12Completing every level with every character (SM3DW)One Million Coins (NSMB2)Rabbits (SM64DS)
F13Bowser (SMG2)Cloud N CandyBowser (SMS)
F14The Toxic Waterfall/Lily Pad Ride (SMS)Banshee Boardwalk (MK64)Corona Mountain (SMS)
F15Mario is Missing!Mario Teaches Typing 1&2Paper Mario: Sticker Star
Userpedia Awards
U1RandomYoshiBop1996Tucayo
U2Toadbert’s Riveting Tale of his Trip to the GroceryPokemon Black and White - Wiki EditionLily Troof: Ace Attorney
U3I Heard You Have A Dragon Problem?Space Pizzas ate MondayTales from the Moon
U4Mr. EdoSmasherNeptune
U5Mr. EdoWalkazoSmg2daisy
U6U4 - Favorite User Design (tb and tfp)S2 - Favorite Team (Anton)Worst Mario Party Board (Gamefreak75)
U7The Official Mariowiki Game Night ThreadAwards CeremonyAwards Mafia
U8Mother 3 Mafia (DragonFreak)MW Werewolf: Take IV (Stooben)Ace Attorney Mafia (GBAToad)
U9MafiaBoard Game OnlineCards Against Humanity
U10AntonSmasherPorplemontage
'Shroom Awards
S1Super Mario Bros.TucayoStooben
S2Fake NewsCritic CornerFun Stuff
S3Super Mario Bros.P_YGBAToad
S4TucayoCoincollectorStooben
S5MrConcreteDonkeyToadbert101Yoshi876
S6AntonWalkazoAndymii
S7Peddler’s Place (Toadbert101)Dear Anton (Anton)Various Fake News entries (MCD)
S8909588
S9649075
S10Super Mario Bros.Mr. EdoMCD

In the past this exact same scenario has been handled by disqualifying the one who did the copying and clearing their tokens. In this instance there's no way to prove that Cirdec did anything about this himself, but we can see that Smg2daisy's post came later.

In addition to this, her participation in the rest of the anniversary proceedings has been troubling because it's either been suspected, or she's confirmed herself in the case of the Pokemon tournament, that she hasn't done any of the work on her own and instead Cirdec has done it.

The question I'm putting to a vote is what to do about this. I'm fully ready to DQ her from GTR but not so sure about clearing all of her tokens. A point was raised about fairness, and how her copying every answer does not affect the game as it gives her no clear advantage unless it was done so after the presentations were given, and as a result there's no punishment we can really serve. My opinion, though, is that copying is copying and it affects the legitimacy of the game whether she does better as a result or not.

If you guys could provide your opinions on what you think one way or the other that would be gr8 as I'd like to do this quickly and before I finish up the rest of GTR.
 

Uniju

Hazukashii serifu kinshi
i think disqualifying her from gtr is probably the most that should be done, copying is lazy and dickish but i fail to see how it's a big deal when everyone has the same information to go on for their guesses and even post them in a public thread
idk i might have a poor perspective on this issue since ive never played gtr myself
 

Anton

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Everyone's guesses being available does allow people to get a better sense of how things go, along with the historical results chart being handy. Having a few awards with identical guesses isn't an issue, partly due to chance and probability and likely winners, and partly due to people going along with someone who's confident about their choice on an award that you might not feel as confident. The concern, though, is when all 65 are the same.
 

Hibiki Tachibana

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I'll agree with kicking her out of GTR, it wouldn't make sense to be inconsistent and it IS a complete copy.

Not sure there's grounds to remove any other tokens from her, though.
 

MrConcreteDonkey

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i'm fine with whatever happens, but maybe it'd be worth asking if her and cirdec were working together? idk
 

Anton

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if you think it's good to ask before we decide what to do, then I'll go do that and come back with a response
 

Anton

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Cirdec said:
We discussed and decided the results together.
then it's of my opinion that they only get to play one game, which means one of them is getting DQ'd, and nothing more than that

if anyone opposes please say so
 

Linhardt von Hevring

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i don't really care which one gets DQ'd but i think that should be the only action taken against them
 

Anton

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well tbh I could just suggest to them to split the tokens of one entry so it doesn't matter I guess, but it'd likely be smg2daisy since her post is the latest
 
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