Suggestions for next year

Anton

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In a continuous effort to improve, please tell us things that could be changed, or new ideas, new awards, nominees, what worked, what didn't work, anything, we will look over everything posted in here.
 

Anton

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*ltq said something about time zone things, tell me how that works

*also we should double check every award count to prevent minor slip-ups that happened

*checkpoint worked out gr8 we're doing that again

*something about polls, I have logs somewhere but basically we found out that the main page polls get us a massive majority of the votes in a fairly short window of time, so that needs to be prioritized and then organized/automated with/by the poll committee
 

Nysic

Power Star
add a "trifecta" button to the forum interface

Derpl Zork said:
*ltq said something about time zone things, tell me how that works
iirc it's a thing that changes the timezone it's showing based upon who's viewing it

so like if i was looking at it now it would say 10:50 PM but for someone in california it would say 7:50 PM
 

NSY

Celestial Guide
i noticed a decrease in votes this year

what would the explanation be regarding that
 

Lakituthequick

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Awards Committee
Derpl Zork said:
*ltq said something about time zone things, tell me how that works
Basic things about it I explained here. You can get those fancy timestamps here. I may make a thing for it if I feel for it.

Should note though (and this is important to know) that the forum software replaces the actual timestamps with the string when you edit/quote a post (PM's are safe), so you should either keep a text file with the raw post or include the plain stamp nearby for copypasting.
 

Anton

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Lucina said:
i noticed a decrease in votes this year

what would the explanation be regarding that
our idea was that it was partly a flub in the front page polls, as they were not as easily visible unless you scrolled through the actual poll box

a few nights before polls closed we noticed a few key awards had dismal votes so we pushed them more into the open and literally hundreds of votes came rolling in within just a couple of hours

there could also easily be other reasons but this was the one we noticed that had quite an impact
 

Anton

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Lakituthequick said:
Derpl Zork said:
*ltq said something about time zone things, tell me how that works
Basic things about it I explained here. You can get those fancy timestamps here. I may make a thing for it if I feel for it.

Should note though (and this is important to know) that the forum software replaces the actual timestamps with the string when you edit/quote a post (PM's are safe), so you should either keep a text file with the raw post or include the plain stamp nearby for copypasting.
how much real effort would that be when you're dealing with the quantity of times that we have to, like, does the convenience for everyone else outweigh the extra work staff would have to do and maintain
 

Petra Macneary

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To reiterate on Anton's final point, what we suggested was the Poll Committee basically goes on hiatus during the awards poll voting. That way we can prioritize the Mario and fail awards poll and prevent them from getting pitiful results (i.e. going from ~2400 votes last year to ~600 votes this year).

Like Anton said a few posts up, what we had noticed was that in a matter of <12 hours, the votes for some of the awards nearly doubled because they were front and center instead of being buried under a poll that had been done for 3 months or so.
 

Claude von Riegan

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Marie said:
add a "trifecta" button to the forum interface
gotta say it was a really good idea banning those posts, i didn't see a single (serious) one during any of the ceremonies

keeping that rule for next year would be a good idea as well
 

RandomYoshi

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GBAToad said:
keeping that rule for next year would be a good idea as well
this

it makes the threads not absolutely arse to keep up with
 

Raven Effect

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Derpl Zork said:
Lucina said:
i noticed a decrease in votes this year

what would the explanation be regarding that
our idea was that it was partly a flub in the front page polls, as they were not as easily visible unless you scrolled through the actual poll box

a few nights before polls closed we noticed a few key awards had dismal votes so we pushed them more into the open and literally hundreds of votes came rolling in within just a couple of hours

there could also easily be other reasons but this was the one we noticed that had quite an impact
It didn't help that the same poll ran the entire time the awards were up
 

Glowsquid

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suggestion for the indivdual awards:

1: remove the obvious protagonist options for the "Favourite ___ series characters" options. I mean, Donkey Kong is a Donkey KOng character and Wario is a Wario character but... gah, it just seems wrong.

2: Add a "Favourite Internal Development team" award, since there's a third-party one. There's definitely enough material on the wiki to get an idea of who the nintendo development teams are and what games they do.

I'll be massively butthurt if nintendo r&d1/spd1 isn't an option tho

Suggestion for the award flow:

Honestly I liked how it went this year. Add me to the row of the people who want the "hurr hurr trifecta" rule back next year.
 

Lakituthequick

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Derpl Zork said:
Lakituthequick said:
Derpl Zork said:
*ltq said something about time zone things, tell me how that works
Basic things about it I explained here. You can get those fancy timestamps here. I may make a thing for it if I feel for it.

Should note though (and this is important to know) that the forum software replaces the actual timestamps with the string when you edit/quote a post (PM's are safe), so you should either keep a text file with the raw post or include the plain stamp nearby for copypasting.
how much real effort would that be when you're dealing with the quantity of times that we have to, like, does the convenience for everyone else outweigh the extra work staff would have to do and maintain
The convenient thing about this is that times are always displayed in the timezone of the viewer (or EDT (server default) for guests).
I have whipped up something really basic that may lighten some work on this.
 

Anton

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but I mean like I have no idea what I'm doing with that and idk where things like 1439582400 are coming from

it's selfish wording it this way but is it really worth the tremendous effort on my part to deal with it or just tell people to add +5 to the time posted

like I can totally see it as being convenient and all but ???? <_> does the benefit outweigh the work
 

Anton

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Stargazing said:
there's also the [nobbc][time][/time][/nobbc] tags
yeah that's literally what he's talking about; if it's easy to do then sure but if not then no
 

Anton

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Stargazing said:
[nobbc] [/nobbc] turns into
wow is it that easy let me try



ok but where did those numbers ltq had come from nvm 22 halped me figure it out
 

Red Barchetta

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Derpl Zork said:
*something about polls, I have logs somewhere but basically we found out that the main page polls get us a massive majority of the votes in a fairly short window of time, so that needs to be prioritized and then organized/automated with/by the poll committee
I will definitely make this a priority to discuss and work on between both the Poll Committee and Awards Committee, and I will definitely be a liaison in order to get this figured out and planned ahead and good to go come next year.
 

Cirdec

Celestial Guide
I second LTQ for those timezones.
Gamefreak told me in PM the time of my presentation was PST (GMT-:cool:, so I did the calculation and told Smg2daisy her presentation was at her 10:40 AM. But then I see the times in the ceremony were not matching, I realize the time said in the PM was not PST actually it was PDT (fuck daylight saving time). So Smg2daisy real time was 9:40 AM but she was sleeping when I told her I was wrong. She missed to post her presentation.

So yeah, be more careful when you post times next years or try to do Lakituthequick's suggestion.
 

Anton

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yeah daylight savings will do that, especially when it's things like Eastern where EST is short for literally "Eastern" and also "Eastern Standard Time", and people here don't even acknowledge whether it's daylight savings or not when saying it so I guess that wasn't really a mishap with gamefreak but like......a language quirk??? idk 22 will know more about that

I'll put effort into learning about the time tags because it's looking like the convenience will outweigh the effort, and that's my cue to do something about it.
 

RandomYoshi

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Next time, lock the GTR topic once the festivities have started. You can't edit them once it's started, so why should the thread not be locked?
 
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