Pokémon (Gen 6) 2015 Tournament - Doubles Tournament (Fifth Round)

Glitchy Bowser Jr.

"Stuff it, sponge brain!"
Re: Pokémon (Gen 6) 2015 Tournament

Smg2daisy said:
Petition said:
Legit interested in a Multi Battle tournament
1. Icemario
2. Meta Knight
3. Smg2daisy
4. Glitchy
And also I think you should ban the Soul Dew item. Both Nintendo and Smogon ban it because it makes Lati@s overpowered.
 

Anton

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Re: Pokémon (Gen 6) 2015 Tournament

latios and latias are already banned from use anyways
 

Red Barchetta

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Re: Pokémon (Gen 6) 2015 Tournament

Timmy said:
I would like to ask, are there clauses active (such as Sleep Clause, Evasion Clause, etc.?)
Granted I know this isn't Smogon (and hell I don't intend to make it like that since you guys are the ones hosting after all), but at the least I do think those 2 I mentioned should be in. Although I'll still play nonetheless, haha.
I'm so bad at my job that I had to actually go look up what the Causes were (◕ ε ◕)

If I'm understanding right, the Sleep Cause is basically that no more than one Pokemon can be asleep on a team at a time, and the Evasion Clause is that you can't have an evasion-stat raising move (like Double Team afaik) on any Pokemon on your team?

Glitchy said:
Petition said:
Legit interested in a Multi Battle tournament
1. Icemario
2. Meta Knight
3. Smg2daisy
4. Glitchy
If people are legitimately that interested in a Multi Battle tournament, I'll heavily consider running it after the Double Battles tournament concludes. With that being said, I'll wait a little bit to see if it garners more support since we can't really do a Multi Battle tournament with 4 people interested! If it does, I'll most certainly begin work on it soon and how we can work it in.
 

Cirdec

Celestial Guide
Re: Pokémon (Gen 6) 2015 Tournament

Rip my Primals. :'(
I sign up for both single and double.
Game: Alpha Sapphire
FC: 3050 - 7875 - 4833
I am also interested for a Multi Battle tournament.
 

Raven Effect

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Re: Pokémon (Gen 6) 2015 Tournament

Nino said:
Timmy said:
I would like to ask, are there clauses active (such as Sleep Clause, Evasion Clause, etc.?)
Granted I know this isn't Smogon (and hell I don't intend to make it like that since you guys are the ones hosting after all), but at the least I do think those 2 I mentioned should be in. Although I'll still play nonetheless, haha.
I'm so bad at my job that I had to actually go look up what the Causes were (◕ ε ◕)

If I'm understanding right, the Sleep Cause is basically that no more than one Pokemon can be asleep on a team at a time, and the Evasion Clause is that you can't have an evasion-stat raising move (like Double Team afaik) on any Pokemon on your team?

Glitchy said:
Petition said:
Legit interested in a Multi Battle tournament
1. Icemario
2. Meta Knight
3. Smg2daisy
4. Glitchy
If people are legitimately that interested in a Multi Battle tournament, I'll heavily consider running it after the Double Battles tournament concludes. With that being said, I'll wait a little bit to see if it garners more support since we can't really do a Multi Battle tournament with 4 people interested! If it does, I'll most certainly begin work on it soon and how we can work it in.
The sleep clause is dumb it's a perfectly fine strategy to put your opponents pokemon to sleep
 

Stargazing

Celestial Guide
Re: Pokémon (Gen 6) 2015 Tournament

I have a question. Is Cosplay Pikachu able to be used in the tournament?
 

Red Barchetta

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Re: Pokémon (Gen 6) 2015 Tournament

Yeah. It's usable, but it just won't appear as Cosplay Pikachu. It'll appear as a regular Pikachu instead.
 

yoshi123

~Yo-YO, let's GO! PSI Prodigy!~
Re: Pokémon (Gen 6) 2015 Tournament

Nino said:
Timmy said:
I would like to ask, are there clauses active (such as Sleep Clause, Evasion Clause, etc.?)
Granted I know this isn't Smogon (and hell I don't intend to make it like that since you guys are the ones hosting after all), but at the least I do think those 2 I mentioned should be in. Although I'll still play nonetheless, haha.
I'm so bad at my job that I had to actually go look up what the Causes were (◕ ε ◕)

If I'm understanding right, the Sleep Cause is basically that no more than one Pokemon can be asleep on a team at a time, and the Evasion Clause is that you can't have an evasion-stat raising move (like Double Team afaik) on any Pokemon on your team?
For the former, yes, but say you had a Pokemon with Rest and use it, your foe can still put another one of your team members to sleep.
Although let's say you had Whimsicott Encore a Breloom into Spore, you can't just keep switching your team and be like "HEY YOU BROKE SLEEP CLAUSE I WIN NOW". xD

Granted I think Sleep is a perfectly ok status, just not when it's abused and you have to win by sending your all your opponent's members to sleep lol.

And for Evasion boosting moves, that does ban Double Team & Minimize, and things like Snow Cloak and Sand Veil, but I'd think the latter is ok to HAVE, so long as there aren't the conditions for them to work if you really can't get a hidden ability on the Pokemon you want (i.e. Glaceon and Garchomp). =P
Although I guess that means the Moody ability would be banned since it can boost Evasion (sharply) lol.

Either way the rules are on you, I'm not trying to force anything haha.
 

Glitchy Bowser Jr.

"Stuff it, sponge brain!"
Re: Pokémon (Gen 6) 2015 Tournament

There is no way to ensure the sleep clause as a pokemon may have a move with a side effect of having a chance of put a pokemon to sleep and rng could choose to make it put more than one pokemon to sleep. Same goes for the freeze clause.
 

yoshi123

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Re: Pokémon (Gen 6) 2015 Tournament

Glitchy said:
There is no way to ensure the sleep clause as a pokemon may have a move with a side effect of having a chance of put a pokemon to sleep and rng could choose to make it put more than one pokemon to sleep. Same goes for the freeze clause.
From my knowledge, I believe Meloetta's Relic Song is the only move with a secondary effect to cause Sleep (but Meloetta is banned), and then Secret Power in tall grass/Grassy Terrain? But wi-fi battles aren't treated as tall grass so it should be fine there. And using those 2 moves together isn't really worth the moveslots lol

Although freeze clause I can understand that we can't enforce it since it's always a secondary effect. :p
 

Lumastar

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Re: Pokémon (Gen 6) 2015 Tournament

I'll join, even if I'm likely going to get wrecked. I'll send out information later.
 

Anton

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Re: Pokémon (Gen 6) 2015 Tournament

I think those clauses are terrible and so is everyone who needs them to be able to play. If you need to ban a core aspect of the game because your smogon team isn't premade to handle it, you should git gud.
 

Glitchy Bowser Jr.

"Stuff it, sponge brain!"
Re: Pokémon (Gen 6) 2015 Tournament

Derpl Zork said:
I think those clauses are terrible and so is everyone who needs them to be able to play. If you need to ban a core aspect of the game because your smogon team isn't premade to handle it, you should git gud.
Meh, sleep hax annoys me, especially since you have a 50/50 chance of waking up so it can potentially shut down your whole team, with little effort required. And my team isn't a standard smogon team... all my movesets were created by me.

And Evasion moves are the most annoying moves I have ever faced. I get frustrated when a CPU opponent spams Double Team.

It isn't a matter of a team being able to handle it, it literally comes down to luck.
 

Anton

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Re: Pokémon (Gen 6) 2015 Tournament

Everything comes down to luck in this when you get down to it lol, and it personally annoying you means absolutely nothing. There's lots of things that annoy me in pokemon games but !!!!!!!!! wowo I don't ban them because I realize they're part of the game and I need to adjust my strategy to handle them.

In addition to the counter point that successfully landing a sleep move has a % chance too, it's a best-of-3 system so even if it gets you down one round you should be able to rebound.
 

yoshi123

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Re: Pokémon (Gen 6) 2015 Tournament

Glitchy said:
Derpl Zork said:
I think those clauses are terrible and so is everyone who needs them to be able to play. If you need to ban a core aspect of the game because your smogon team isn't premade to handle it, you should git gud.
Meh, sleep hax annoys me, especially since you have a 50/50 chance of waking up
Well, that's not actually how it works.

You have a Sleep counter that is a max of 3; everytime you get the message "[Pokemon] is fast asleep", it decreases by one (having the Early Bird abilty makes it decrease by 2). When it hits 0, then you wake up.

You have to be lucky to not get a Sleep counter of 3 (I seem to get it each time tho). :p

Either way, I would prefer if it were in place, but I don't mind if it's without (and no my team isn't really a Smogon one either) lol.

Wait actually I forgot Effect Spore can cause it too (and some can actually use the ability if you're not Breloom lol), perhaps it's just simpler if we don't use it. =P

Excuse me as I go put a bunch of sleep absorbers now jk
 

Red Barchetta

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Re: Pokémon (Gen 6) 2015 Tournament

I'm gonna be completely honest and ultimately say no to implementing the Sleep or Evasion Clauses (or any other Clauses there might be, I forget what the other ones I read were). I really don't like how they take so much out of the game - sleep and evasion are natural parts of the game and it seems kind of... really unnecessary to ban them outright from a competitive standpoint. o.o
 

freakworld

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Banned User
Re: Pokémon (Gen 6) 2015 Tournament

Fox only
Final Destination
No Items
No Sleep
No Evasion
No Fun

no this isn't a sign up or anything like that, i don't play pokemon
 
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