2012 'Shroom Director Election: Debate the First

Hobbes

Star Spirit
Core 'Shroom Staff
Retired Wiki Staff
[2012-12-26 19:58:37] <Tucayo> Election is tied 6-6, so it doesn't get any better than this!
[2012-12-26 20:00:30] <Tucayo> Welcome, everybody, to the first debate of the 2012 'Shroom Director Election!!
[2012-12-26 20:00:34] <Tucayo> *applause*
[2012-12-26 20:01:29] <Tucayo> This debate will work in a slightly different manner than in past years
[2012-12-26 20:01:52] <Tucayo> If you have a question, please PM either SMB or myself to tell us you want to ask something
[2012-12-26 20:02:16] <Tucayo> After receiving your PM, we will add you to the queue, and, when your turn is up, we'll tell you to ask your question.
[2012-12-26 20:02:36] <Tucayo> Questions can be asked to any candidate or to both candidates, and may have follow-up questions.
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[2012-12-26 20:02:52] <KoopaGuy> When's the debate?
[2012-12-26 20:02:57] <Tucayo> Right now, welcome
[2012-12-26 20:03:11] <KoopaGuy> ok, so do I vote now?
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[2012-12-26 20:03:21] <Tucayo> Voting takes place in here: http://www.mariowiki.com/The_%27Shroom:Issue_LXIX/Director_Election
[2012-12-26 20:03:23] <KoopaGuy> Who's jjj?
[2012-12-26 20:03:29] <Tucayo> That doesn't matter
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[2012-12-26 20:03:42] <Tucayo> So, whoever has any questions, feel free to query either SMB or me
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[2012-12-26 20:06:25] <SMB> My apologies.
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[2012-12-26 20:06:55] <KoopaGuy> that chat party was awesome
[2012-12-26 20:07:28] <Tucayo> /cs set #mwshroom entrymsg Welcome to the first debate! If you have any questions, please query either SMB or Tucayo saying so
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[2012-12-26 20:08:05] <Smasher> ChanServ [#mwshroom] Welcome to the first debate! If you have any questions, please query either SMB or Tucayo saying so!
[2012-12-26 20:08:07] <Smasher> :)
[2012-12-26 20:08:10] <Crash> kick me smasher or mrconcretedonkey
[2012-12-26 20:08:15] <Tucayo> We are good to go!
[2012-12-26 20:08:22] <Smasher> wait really crash
[2012-12-26 20:08:26] <Crash> yea
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[2012-12-26 20:08:40] <Crash> op abuse
[2012-12-26 20:08:42] <Tucayo> So, has anyone got any questions?
[2012-12-26 20:08:45] <Smasher> you asked for it
[2012-12-26 20:09:37] <Tucayo> I have a question for SMB
[2012-12-26 20:10:06] <SMB> Alright.
[2012-12-26 20:10:39] <KoopaGuy> LOL Crash
[2012-12-26 20:10:49] <Tucayo> SMB, in your campaign you mention "Userpedia Shopping Credits", which I had never heard before. Could you elaborate on that point?
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[2012-12-26 20:12:32] <SMB> Oh, well that is just a generic term I invented, I'm surethat isn't the final name- but basically, Userpedia is setting up a forum shop system and members can earn credits by doing certain events on Userpedia.
[2012-12-26 20:12:45] <SMB> At least, this is in the works from what I understand.
[2012-12-26 20:13:46] <SMB> Once they set up that system, I would like to consider having us partner up with them similarly to how we are trying to work with the Awards Committee.
[2012-12-26 20:14:21] <SMB> I feel that this will allow us to provide more options to the writers of our paper.
[2012-12-26 20:15:15] <Tucayo> So, does this mean users will be able to choose to trade their Shroom tokens for either Awards tokens or Userpedia credits?
[2012-12-26 20:16:18] <SMB> In a nutshell, yes. They would get our tokens and will be able to decide whether they want to trade them for Awards tokens or Userpedia credits.
[2012-12-26 20:17:21] <Tucayo> Great, thanks
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[2012-12-26 20:18:13] <SMB> Of course. :)
[2012-12-26 20:19:10] <SMB> I have a question for my fellow candidate as well.
[2012-12-26 20:20:35] <SMB> You mention in your campaign, "Who knows, this feature may even come as a 13th issue" in relation to "a feature to help voters cast a more educated vote."
[2012-12-26 20:20:54] <SMB> "Votes" in relation to the Awards voting, that is.
[2012-12-26 20:21:20] <SMB> My question is: how do you feel that promoting it as a thirteenth issue would be beneficial?
[2012-12-26 20:22:53] <Tucayo> I feel promoting it as a stand-alone issue would help us draw more attention toward it, since it would be a special issue entirely dedicated to the awards.
[2012-12-26 20:23:18] <Tucayo> I also feel it would be clearer to have it in its own issue, rather than mixed with our regular issues.
[2012-12-26 20:23:33] <jjj> Why did you guys vote for each other? If you don't support yourself how can you expect others to?
[2012-12-26 20:24:01] <Smasher> they both secretly want to lose
[2012-12-26 20:24:01] <Tucayo> That has been explained several times in the past. It's an act of chivalry and sportsmanship.
[2012-12-26 20:24:09] <Smasher> in seriousness it's probab--that
[2012-12-26 20:24:17] <SMB> jjj: That is a matter of precedent and is considered as a sort of courtesy practice. Also, per Tucayo.
[2012-12-26 20:24:26] <SMB> Also, in response to Tucayo,
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[2012-12-26 20:25:51] <SMB> I understand the logic behind that, but wouldn't it also distract from the other issues coming up and put our writers on the short end of the stick?
[2012-12-26 20:26:24] <SMB> Our writers have to provide quality sections for each issue each month. If they do not have the proper time to prepare, then how will the issue be of substance?
[2012-12-26 20:26:44] <Tucayo> My bad, I failed to explain this properly.
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[2012-12-26 20:27:40] <Tucayo> You're entirely right, writers need their preparation time. However, this issue would only be comprised of the section to inform readers of the Awards, which will not require any additional work from our writers.
[2012-12-26 20:28:07] <Tucayo> It will be put together by the Core Staff, with help from the Userpedia Staff and the Awards Committee.
[2012-12-26 20:28:29] <Tucayo> It wouldn't be the first time we have an additional issue, so I know we definitely would be able to make it.
[2012-12-26 20:29:48] <SMB> But wouldn't that issue lack substance?
[2012-12-26 20:30:05] <SMB> That isn't to say that the Awards and Userpedia aren't substantial topics,
[2012-12-26 20:30:58] <SMB> But many of our issues cover a variety of topics that attract a broader base of readers. Won't narrowing down the focus actually potentially hurt the amount of attention to Awards sections get?
[2012-12-26 20:32:21] <SMB> As one of our staff members pointed out in a discussion not so long ago, there are some readers who come by and read issues through entirely simply because the rest of the content is there. If the content that certain readers are interested in gets removed, then won't we only attract those that have an existing interest in the awards?
[2012-12-26 20:33:21] <Tucayo> I'll answer one by one since I'm getting confused. I don't feel it would lack substance, since we have around 20 Awards to explain and detail. Yes, it would be smaller than our average issue, but if you want you can think of it as an additional feature, as opposed to a full-fledged issue.
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[2012-12-26 20:34:45] <Tucayo> I definitely understand your point there,
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[2012-12-26 20:36:06] <Tucayo> But, as it's seen with the SOTM polls every month, our number of readers decreases greatly in the last weeks before the next issue is released. This means, featuring our Awards coverage on the Main Page for a week or two won't harm us.
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[2012-12-26 20:37:08] <Tucayo> Please remember that last Awards were a poor reflection of the condition of both us and Userpedia. It's our duty to do what we can to inform voters.
[2012-12-26 20:38:13] <Tucayo> Also, if the point you mentioned before is a common concern, we can always link users who don't want to read our Awards coverage to the latest issue.
[2012-12-26 20:39:54] <SMB> Okay. I guess one thing I'd like to say is, "our number of readers decreases greatly in the last weeks before the next issue is released" - if this is the case, then why would we release content during the times when interest in our material wanes? Wouldn't it make more sense to include it when you have everybody's attention?
[2012-12-26 20:41:20] <Tucayo> We lost attention because there is no new content. Should there be new content, just like this Awards coverage, we'd have the same attention we have during a normal release.
[2012-12-26 20:41:24] <Tucayo> *lose
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[2012-12-26 20:43:42] <jjj> Would either you support a STREAM of weekly, smaller issues rather than the LARGE monthly issue with that longer gap between releases?
[2012-12-26 20:44:01] <Tucayo> Please wait for your turn, jjj
[2012-12-26 20:44:47] <SMB> Tucky: Are you sure simply releasing it will gain the sufficient attention, though? Especially when voting starts in July? That, for the record, is right after the Special Issue 75 you announced you're interested in- downtime in attention for the paper is usually its greatest after special issues, believe it or not.
[2012-12-26 20:45:27] <SMB> That is a large amount of time and effort you would be asking the staff to invest, given the proximity of the events.
[2012-12-26 20:46:05] <SMB> Not that time and effort is a bad thing, but it is something that needs to be considered.
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[2012-12-26 20:47:20] <Tucayo> Well, as it was said in my campaign, the 13th issue is only one of the options I had.
[2012-12-26 20:48:01] <Tucayo> To be honest, it never crossed my mind the proximity of our Special Issue and the voting.
[2012-12-26 20:48:40] <Tucayo> I guess I'll have to take my other option, should I win.
[2012-12-26 20:49:33] <SMB> Alright, thank you for discussing that. I am done with my question.
[2012-12-26 20:51:23] <Tucayo> Now, has anyone else got a question?
[2012-12-26 20:51:30] <jjj> Do either of your support term limits?
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[2012-12-26 20:51:57] <Tucayo> I don't.
[2012-12-26 20:52:49] <SMB> I myself support what the community supports. The main reason I am running now is because there are no term limits. If the community voted via proposals to instate term limits, I would honor the community's wishes.
[2012-12-26 20:53:25] <jjj> Thank you both. Tucayo, you're asking us to take a risk and try someone new. What's the #1 reason we shouldn't just stick with SMB?
[2012-12-26 20:55:46] <Tucayo> As much as SMB has greatly improved The 'Shroom and managed it excellently these past years, I believe it's time for someone with fresher ideas to take the reins.
[2012-12-26 20:55:49] <Tucayo> Change is good.
[2012-12-26 20:56:41] <jjj> Can you cite a time where you would have done something different?
[2012-12-26 20:57:53] <YoshiKong> You will never know until you try. It could be a success, it might not be. But that wouldn't matter because you then know for future. But personally I love the big monthly issues.
[2012-12-26 20:58:07] <Tucayo> Yes, I can. I would have had a different attitude towards the major changes the 'Shroom suffered in 2009. A positive one.
[2012-12-26 20:59:04] <SMB> (Can I follow up on some of these when I am able to?)
[2012-12-26 20:59:42] <SMB> (Rather, respond to some of Tucky's responses as well?)
[2012-12-26 20:59:47] <jjj> I'd like you both to make a comment on the weekly issues idea
[2012-12-26 20:59:58] <Tucayo> Woa, no one mentioned weekly issues.
[2012-12-26 21:00:20] <jjj> It was something I said at the wrong time
[2012-12-26 21:00:57] <YoshiKong> Rule out weekly issues. They would lose their touch.
[2012-12-26 21:01:12] <SMB> May I say something, jjj? In relation to some of the questions you have asked.
[2012-12-26 21:01:20] <jjj> Ok
[2012-12-26 21:03:19] <SMB> Firstly, I would like to just make the comment that Tucayo is not a new face to The 'Shroom. :P He has been in the Core Staff for years, and he was my boss from 2009 - early 2011 (he was the Director at times, and the Sub-Director at times).
 

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[2012-12-26 21:04:06] <SMB> I like to say that I don't just introduce new ideas, but that I build upon older ones as well.
[2012-12-26 21:04:46] <SMB> Many ideas that Tucayo and Stooben Rooben had implemented in their time in charge, I have expounded upon and have actually made happen.
[2012-12-26 21:05:01] <SMB> Well, not me, but everybody that has cooperated with me during my time as Director.
[2012-12-26 21:05:20] <SMB> But I would like to say in response to Tucayo,
[2012-12-26 21:05:37] <SMB> With, "someone with fresher ideas to take the reins,"
[2012-12-26 21:06:05] <SMB> That I feel that my ideas are not only fresh, but they will build upon the success of the past two years and make the paper greater than it was before.
[2012-12-26 21:06:20] <SMB> Also, to clarify,
[2012-12-26 21:06:27] <SMB> "Yes, I can. I would have had a different attitude towards the major changes the 'Shroom suffered in 2009. A positive one."
[2012-12-26 21:07:12] <SMB> I'm certain that Tucayo meant that /he/ would have had a different attitude in comparison to his own attitude in 2009. Because I know I supported most of the changes that helped moved the paper into this better direction.
[2012-12-26 21:08:13] <SMB> Finally, on the topic of having issues every week, it's honestly just that we don't have the resources to do weekly releases. Having it set at a rate of one issue per month has proven very successful for us and is the best way for us to manage our operations as a team.
[2012-12-26 21:08:39] <SMB> And that is my response.
[2012-12-26 21:09:41] <jjj> Well the idea would be each weekly issue is a quarter the size of a current monthly issue. With scheduling, it could be done
[2012-12-26 21:09:58] <Tucayo> I really don't see that happening anytime soon.
[2012-12-26 21:10:53] <SMB> I would concur with Tucayo on this one.
[2012-12-26 21:11:12] <Tucayo> Alright, has anyone else got something to ask?
[2012-12-26 21:13:04] <SMB> Yes, I do.
[2012-12-26 21:13:43] <Tucayo> Alright, ask away.
[2012-12-26 21:14:16] <SMB> Earlier, in response to something I had said, you mentioned that in addition to the "thirteenth issue" idea you had for the Awards coverage, you had other ideas that you want to put on the table.
[2012-12-26 21:14:23] <SMB> What do these other ideas entail?
[2012-12-26 21:14:53] <Tucayo> That idea is basically having our Awards coverage included in either the May, June or July issues
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[2012-12-26 21:15:49] <brock> greetings
[2012-12-26 21:15:57] <brock> whose winning
[2012-12-26 21:15:59] <SMB> Alright, thanks for the response. That is all I want to know on that topic.
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[2012-12-26 21:16:32] <Tucayo> Any more questions?
[2012-12-26 21:16:56] <SMB> If nobody else has any, I have another one.
[2012-12-26 21:16:58] <SMB> :P
[2012-12-26 21:17:04] <Tucayo> Sure
[2012-12-26 21:18:00] <Tucayo> I also have one, after you ask yours
[2012-12-26 21:18:37] <SMB> http://www.mariowiki.com/User:Henry_Tucayo_Clay/ShroomSingle
[2012-12-26 21:19:04] <SMB> Obviously this is just a rough draft, and it's a pretty decent one at that, but my question about it is...
[2012-12-26 21:19:44] <SMB> What other changes would you consider adding to it? Also, how would you ensure that it looks nice and clean (in terms of having it even at the bottom)?
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[2012-12-26 21:21:07] <Tucayo> I have no other changes planned right now. Due to the length limitation we are both aware of, it's really hard to include anything more.
[2012-12-26 21:21:24] <Tucayo> Of course, I'd run it through the staff and the readers before to know their opinion.
[2012-12-26 21:21:40] <Tucayo> As for evening it out at the bottom: Ain't nobody got time for that.
[2012-12-26 21:22:18] <YoshiKong> Is that a stand alone issue?
[2012-12-26 21:22:38] <SMB> YoshiKong: That is a rough draft applied to the November issue I believe.
[2012-12-26 21:22:44] <Tucayo> That is the November issue, yes
[2012-12-26 21:23:01] <YoshiKong> Just reviewing larger sections on other subpages?
[2012-12-26 21:23:10] <YoshiKong> *previewing
[2012-12-26 21:23:18] <SMB> Basically, Porplemontage wants us to make the Single Page smaller (he has implemented new policies that disallow us from just including all of the pages on the single)
[2012-12-26 21:23:25] <jjj> You should get rid of the bubbles (because the "read more" links do that job) and shorten the header so the content begins without having to scroll so much
[2012-12-26 21:24:06] <SMB> So we have to come up with ways to make it smaller while not completely getting rid of it as a means for people to see a bit of the entire issue.
[2012-12-26 21:24:11] <YoshiKong> I kinda like it, because the large issue takes a while to load on my computer and I usually view one subpage at a time anyway.
[2012-12-26 21:24:19] <Tucayo> Thanks, I will consider that, jjj
[2012-12-26 21:25:24] <SMB> Also, I have a follow-up question for you Tucayo.
[2012-12-26 21:25:26] <SMB> "As for evening it out at the bottom: Ain't nobody got time for that."
[2012-12-26 21:25:31] <SMB> What does that mean?
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[2012-12-26 21:26:28] <Tucayo> I really don't have plans for evening it out at the bottom. It's a minor detail and there are more important things than making sure the boxes are even.
[2012-12-26 21:26:46] <jjj> The boxes look cool scattered
[2012-12-26 21:27:05] <SMB> Tucayo: Such as...? Just wondering.
[2012-12-26 21:27:07] <SMB> Because,
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[2012-12-26 21:27:56] <Tucayo> Such as planning every issue.
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[2012-12-26 21:28:06] <Tucayo> Really, that's something incredibly minor.
[2012-12-26 21:28:22] <SMB> To me, if we are going to implement a new design, then we should put in our best effort and make sure that it is complete and aesthetically pleasing to the readers before we implement it. Having the templates even out at the bottom is one such thing.
[2012-12-26 21:28:42] <SMB> In other words, if you are going to do something, do it right.
[2012-12-26 21:28:54] <Tucayo> I'll consider it along the road.
[2012-12-26 21:28:57] <Tucayo> Any more questions?
[2012-12-26 21:29:01] <jjj> SMB... don't go there bro. It looks cool the way it is now
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[2012-12-26 21:29:39] <SMB> Also, I'm sorry, but real quickly,
[2012-12-26 21:29:41] <SMB> "Such as planning every issue."
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[2012-12-26 21:30:26] <SMB> This is also why I asked Porplemontage to move the deadline for the implementation down to April, rather than the earlier month he set it at (I believe January).
[2012-12-26 21:30:41] <SMB> This is plenty of time to get everything done while planning issues.
[2012-12-26 21:31:06] <Tucayo> By the time we implement it we will have 75 issues.
[2012-12-26 21:31:25] <Tucayo> With an average of 10 articles per issue, that's 750 articles
[2012-12-26 21:31:56] <SMB> I don't presume that we are having to go back and destroy the archives with this.
[2012-12-26 21:31:59] <Tucayo> I think making boxes for 750 articles and revamping 75 issues will take most of the time we have.
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[2012-12-26 21:33:13] <SMB> That in itself would be a waste of time and would be bad (and as per a specific point in my campaign, I'm only planning on /restoring/ archived issues, not going back and overhauling them).
[2012-12-26 21:33:23] <SMB> I don't believe Porple specified having to change all of them.
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[2012-12-26 21:33:48] <SMB> I assume it is an ex post facto thing (since he has done similar things before).
[2012-12-26 21:34:55] <Misogi_Kumagawa> smb
[2012-12-26 21:34:57] <Misogi_Kumagawa> smb
[2012-12-26 21:35:02] <Misogi_Kumagawa> can i query you for a minute
[2012-12-26 21:35:10] <SMB> Go ahead, sure.
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[2012-12-26 21:35:45] <SMB> Also, I guess I have enough that is enough from me on that, though.
[2012-12-26 21:35:46] <Tucayo> Since his problem is with long pages, I do believe this applies to every single page longer than his standard
[2012-12-26 21:35:50] <SMB> Tucayo, you said you had a question for me?
[2012-12-26 21:36:39] <Tucayo> Yeah
[2012-12-26 21:37:37] <Tucayo> Regarding the Music & Art team, which changes do you have in mind for it?
[2012-12-26 21:39:38] <SMB> Well, as mentioned, I would like to work with the Music & Artwork Director to bring about certain changes and I will certainly discuss ideas with the Core Staff,
[2012-12-26 21:39:44] <SMB> But to mention some specifics,
[2012-12-26 21:40:18] <SMB> Several members of the community have mentioned that the team is relatively monotonous. A lot of sections are "___ of the Month" for example.
[2012-12-26 21:40:30] <SMB> This is because when the team started, these were the sections that worked well for it.
[2012-12-26 21:41:00] <SMB> But since it has remained relatively unchanged and the rest of the paper has, it is understandable that this team would have a bit of a struggle compared to the others.
[2012-12-26 21:41:27] <SMB> Some things would be to get our artists and musicians in the community involved with it.
[2012-12-26 21:42:05] <SMB> We have a lot of them, and getting them interested in making contributions would be a great start.
[2012-12-26 21:42:48] <SMB> There were various things like music reviews and actual songs and sketches that were recently included in this past Holiday Issue- those would be good ideas for some new things to include in future issues.
[2012-12-26 21:43:37] <SMB> We also have had comics in the past. This might be a good team for comics to go as well.
[2012-12-26 21:44:28] <SMB> So it's really moving the Music & Artwork team into a more artistic and creative direction that will fix it.
[2012-12-26 21:46:12] <Tucayo> Good, thanks.
[2012-12-26 21:46:19] <Tucayo> I have a question from Superchao to me.
[2012-12-26 21:46:30] <Tucayo> He asks: "Are you planning on editing the current application process in any way?"
[2012-12-26 21:47:11] <Tucayo> The current application process is technically pretty good. Sadly, when it comes to the actual stuff, it's far from being good.
[2012-12-26 21:48:04] <Tucayo> The current deadline to review applications is one week, but that deadline is rarely obeyed. Aside from that, many applications only get a couple of votes, and there are 8 of us in the Core Staff.
[2012-12-26 21:49:16] <Tucayo> So what I would change is the inner process. Basically enforce the deadline and reminding the rest of the Core Staff to voice their opinion, since some times it feels like some applications are being ignored.
[2012-12-26 21:50:50] <Tucayo> Has someone got a follow-up question to this answer?
[2012-12-26 21:51:25] <SMB> I would like to request that the question be opened up to me, if Tucayo and Superchao are alright with that.
[2012-12-26 21:52:42] <Tucayo> I am. Perch?
[2012-12-26 21:53:19] <Youmu_Chaopaku> sure
[2012-12-26 21:53:29] <SMB> Thank you both.
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[2012-12-26 21:54:42] <SMB> The one main thing is that the process toward applying is good- the application is straightforward and is simple, it helps us filter submissions to ensure that we hire writers that care about quality, and it has improved The 'Shroom immensely.
[2012-12-26 21:55:42] <SMB> I suppose you can say that we've made steps towards improving the process already.
[2012-12-26 21:55:52] <SMB> In 2011, we didn't have a deadline at all.
[2012-12-26 21:56:14] <SMB> In 2012, we implemented it, and the response time to most applications has improved from 2011.
[2012-12-26 21:56:43] <SMB> this year in 2013, I will ask all members of the Core Staff to specifically agree to closing applications on time.
[2012-12-26 21:57:00] <SMB> If they cannot agree, then they will not be placed into the staff.
[2012-12-26 21:57:12] <SMB> If they do agree but fall short, action will be taken to remedy the situation.
[2012-12-26 21:58:12] <SMB> I will ensure that all applications- regardless of team- are closed within a week of being posted unless we need more time to review them (in which case, we will notify the writer that we need a specific amount of time to finish reviewing them).
[2012-12-26 21:58:36] <SMB> Also,
[2012-12-26 21:59:12] <SMB> I forgot to mention that I will also ask staff members to comment on all applications that come in as a requirement for them to keep their position as well.
[2012-12-26 21:59:23] <SMB> finally,
[2012-12-26 22:00:26] <SMB> I want to implement a Manual of Style that will help those interested in writing for us make sure that their submission is properly formatted. It obviously won't make all of our problems go away, but it will help us make sure that the writers understand before they apply what we expect of them.
[2012-12-26 22:01:09] <SMB> I assume that it will help us to cut down on the time required to review all applications and will finally provide good ways for us to implement some official policies on how to write a section.
[2012-12-26 22:01:32] <Tucayo> You're making it sound as if you will fire them if they do not comment on applications, is that so? Because all this is voluntary, and it would feel like unnecessary pressure and it would be a huge "turn-off" to have that condition imposed on the staff
[2012-12-26 22:02:03] <SMB> Obviously I will not outright fire them. I want to work with them to improve their response rate.
[2012-12-26 22:02:20] <SMB> for example, messaging them in a PM on the forum is all it takes to get at least one or two more responses.
[2012-12-26 22:02:53] <SMB> I probably should not have worded my first response with such apocalyptic terms. :P
[2012-12-26 22:02:59] <SMB> But to clarify:
[2012-12-26 22:03:36] <SMB> I will work with the staff to ensure that they respond to applications posted up. If worse comes to worse, applications will be closed on the day of the deadline by myself if nobody else does it.
[2012-12-26 22:04:55] <Tucayo> Any more questions?
[2012-12-26 22:05:49] <SMB> I would like to ask you, Tucayo, do you have any specific plans to increase the amount of attention that The 'Shroom will receive? I don't really pick anything up from your campaign that would suggest a significant shift from what we have done in the past year.
[2012-12-26 22:07:57] <Tucayo> <s>someone other than SMB?</s> I'll continue advertising. I'm the guy who does the Twitter stuff, so I know how to do that. My previous-mentioned partnership with Userpedia to cover the Awards will also gain us more attention.
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[2012-12-26 22:09:42] <SMB> Alright, thank you for your reponse.
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[2012-12-26 22:10:36] <Tucayo> Do we have more questions tonight?
[2012-12-26 22:12:27] <Tucayo> We'll wait for a couple of minutes, and if we don't get more questions we'll close this debate.
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[2012-12-26 22:15:37] <SMB> I have one more question, Tucayo.
[2012-12-26 22:15:48] <Tucayo> Ok
[2012-12-26 22:15:58] <SMB> Is this the last question?
[2012-12-26 22:16:09] <Youmu_Chaopaku> smb
[2012-12-26 22:16:17] <Youmu_Chaopaku> you could at least wait for the next issue
[2012-12-26 22:16:22] <Youmu_Chaopaku> before you start stealing stooben's job
[2012-12-26 22:16:52] <SMB> im sorry, i cant help it ;_;
[2012-12-26 22:16:56] <Tucayo> says the one who couldn't get the right answer to that question
[2012-12-26 22:17:03] <Smasher> no smb that is not the last question
[2012-12-26 22:17:08] <Tucayo> No, this is the last question.
[2012-12-26 22:17:12] <Tucayo> *?
[2012-12-26 22:17:15] <Smasher> but is THIS the last question?
[2012-12-26 22:17:28] <Tucayo> yes smasher, you can ask the last one
[2012-12-26 22:17:49] <Smasher> ok uh
[2012-12-26 22:18:08] <Smasher> how much of a raise will either of you give me if i vote for you???
[2012-12-26 22:18:28] <Tucayo> I'll multiply your pay by whatever SMB says +1
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[2012-12-26 22:18:56] <Smasher> well smb, can you top that?
[2012-12-26 22:19:18] <Rheneas> Hi!
[2012-12-26 22:19:36] <SMB> I'll throw in a breakfast special and give you a good dental plan. :)
[2012-12-26 22:20:04] <Rheneas> 3For realz?!
[2012-12-26 22:20:24] <Smasher> smb wins
[2012-12-26 22:20:32] <Tucayo> Well, it looks like we are done for the night! Thanks for staying with us, we hope you found this debate useful! We'll schedule a second debate at a more convenient time for our fellows in the other side of the world :)
 

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I'd like to thank everybody that attended and partook in this. I would also like to thank Tucayo for being there and participating in this event with me, and allowing for the voters to get to know us and our plans a bit better than they did before. I definitely look forward to a next debate (should there be one).
 

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Both debates are over, yes. A third one hasn't been planned.
 
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