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Re: Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
« Reply #7300 on: December 03, 2018, 03:26:53 PM »
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Re: Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
« Reply #7301 on: December 07, 2018, 09:08:46 AM »
I finished SPM. It was.... ehh. Not so good.


Like I really don't get why people think it's better than PM64.

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Re: Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
« Reply #7302 on: December 07, 2018, 09:11:31 AM »
Go on.
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Re: Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
« Reply #7303 on: December 07, 2018, 09:57:12 AM »
Go on.

Oh okay I'll go on alright.

-Everything looked like a geometric shape. Not very creative.
-Partners > Pixls.
-Music isn't bad but forgettable.
-Levels were 99% going from point A to B and jumping on enemies that were mostly super easy to kill.
-Chapters 2 and 6 were tedious. (grinding 10000 rupees and jumping on 100 enemies that are all the same = bad).
-Combat is nothing like the first one. Was it necessary to change it?
-Dimentio isn't terrible but people adore him like a god, even more than Fawful. Why?
-Ugh Bowser is so STUPID in this game. The hell happened to him after the other two?
-Collecting cards was sorta fun but 80% of the time you had to either buy a lot of catch cards or just buy them in the same shop over and over again until getting them all.
-Bosses were a cakewalk for the most part. Bleck and Super Dimentio were piss easy.
-So why do people want these weird ass characters to appear in a bazillion more games again?
-No badges.


Now some pros:
-Some jokes were funny.
-Francis.
-Mr. L.
-you could play as Bowser and he was OP.
-I kind of had fun doing all those button combinations when I had to use items.
-They tried to make a darker Mario game, I guess? I'm nooooooooot so sure if I like that but ah well. At least they wanted to do something different?

Satisfied? (I bet you could make a way bigger wall of text about all this :P)


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Re: Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
« Reply #7304 on: December 07, 2018, 10:15:24 AM »
I feel like I've made enough big wall of texts about that game to last a life time.

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Re: Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
« Reply #7305 on: December 07, 2018, 10:25:56 AM »
I don't think it's better than PM64 honestly. I just like all of the games (exception: SS) in around the same spot on my list.

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Re: Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
« Reply #7306 on: December 07, 2018, 10:32:57 AM »
Actually I disagree on some things. Call the artstyle uncreative all you want, but it was certainly done to convey a feeling of being in a new dimension, so it was done well, Bowser is the worst playable character in the game, although Peach is not off the hook herself, Chapter 2 wasn't exactly tedious besides ONE part, although it was lackluster and the old battle system wouldn't work with a side-scroller, and as such, it's actually ok to have them be linear in the style of going from A to B, and badges too wouldn't really be as useful as they would be in the older games. Lastly, doesn't mean if Pixls are all the same and don't talk after their introduction that they're inferior to partners. In fact, I think they're better: you consider them as items and therefore don't need development, while partners are actual characters whose personalities are just not that fleshed out and leave much to be desired. But that's just my opinion.

Of course, maybe its original characters are a bit overrated but that doesn't mean I find them bad, and tbh Bleck is better than Dimentio by a long shot (in fact, Dimentio is pretty stupid), and besides the story, Chapter 6 is the worst. And I highly agree that the bosses are for the most part, disappointing, especially BoneChill.

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Re: Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
« Reply #7307 on: December 07, 2018, 02:14:52 PM »
How the heck is Bowser the worst character in the game?

His double damage kills everything in seconds.
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Re: Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
« Reply #7308 on: December 07, 2018, 02:16:17 PM »
Call the artstyle uncreative all you want, but it was certainly done to convey a feeling of being in a new dimension, so it was done well

imo I don't think the art style is uncreative, I find it just extremely jarring, inconsistent, and hideous.

the old battle system wouldn't work with a side-scroller, and as such, it's actually ok to have them be linear in the style of going from A to B, and badges too wouldn't really be as useful as they would be in the older games

Yes, it can work in a side-scroller. Child of Light is an RPG side-scroller that has you traveling in the overworld and battle enemies as you encounter them, and additionally has some action-command like elements in its gameplay.

Additionally, how a battle system functions isn't directly correlated to the linearity of the game, they're two separate elements.

Badges are one of the key things of Paper Mario that makes it stand out among other RPGs so their absence of customization options is extremely jarring.

Lastly, doesn't mean if Pixls are all the same and don't talk after their introduction that they're inferior to partners. In fact, I think they're better: you consider them as items and therefore don't need development, while partners are actual characters whose personalities are just not that fleshed out and leave much to be desired. But that's just my opinion.

The thing is, people did see them as partners because they acted as replacements and had some lines of dialogue when you first collect them. I think it's natural for people to expect them to be as such when you earn them, and I don't blame them one bit for being disappointed in what they (and reveals what the partners are to an extent) are: talking tools. I think it would be so much better if Pixls actually had a personality and developed through the game. Tippi could talk just fine, for example.
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Re: Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
« Reply #7309 on: December 07, 2018, 02:22:13 PM »
Badges could easily work in a 2D platformer action rpg.

I've seen other platformer rpgs do it in the past with similar ideas.
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Re: Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
« Reply #7310 on: December 07, 2018, 02:43:28 PM »
Eh, just my own *bleep*ty opinion on the game, y'know.

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Re: Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
« Reply #7311 on: December 07, 2018, 02:45:04 PM »
Well those aren't allowed. You must now commit yourself to 30 years of hard labor.
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Re: Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
« Reply #7312 on: December 07, 2018, 02:46:48 PM »
You can have your *bleep*ty opinion as long as you hold the following

1. Isabelle is terrible
2. Super Paper Mario is lame.
3. Baby Luigi is the best character.
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Re: Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
« Reply #7313 on: December 07, 2018, 02:54:02 PM »
You can have your *bleep*ty opinion as long as you hold the following

1. Isabelle is terrible
2. Super Paper Mario is lame.
3. Baby Luigi is the best character.

I guess I can live with the second one, but...

Ummm... why is this thread called "Unpopular opinions" again?

But you know, that opinion doesn't matter much to me anyway, because I'm not in love with the game or anything. In fact, if I could trade it with any other Paper Mario it would be Color Splash, but I just am an overall easy-going person when it comes to games, so you won't see me complain about things everyone complains about.

Bowser is the worst character in the game, yes, but not necessarily bad. But he's just a bit too slow for my tastes.

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Re: Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
« Reply #7314 on: December 07, 2018, 02:56:32 PM »
I'm probably the complainer type, hahahaha. Already having my issues with Smash Ultimate. :P
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Re: Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
« Reply #7315 on: December 07, 2018, 02:57:46 PM »
Only 18 days left, Koops...

18... long... I mean... 18 days...

And you'll get to beat the crap out of Ridley using only a fishing rod and party poppers.

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Re: Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
« Reply #7316 on: December 07, 2018, 03:02:27 PM »
1. Isabelle is terrible

This isn't even an opinion, this is a literal fact.

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Re: Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
« Reply #7317 on: December 07, 2018, 03:03:11 PM »
And you'll get to beat the crap out of Ridley using only a fishing rod and party poppers.

Do it on Brinstar Depths too, for maximum loliness at that juxtaposition.

1. Isabelle is terrible

This isn't even an opinion, this is a literal fact.


Let's run away from Koops now, I think that's a good idea.
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Re: Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
« Reply #7318 on: December 07, 2018, 03:55:41 PM »
1. Isabelle is terrible

This isn't even an opinion, this is a literal fact.


You know what actually is a literal fact?

The fact that you are both dying the 20th of December.
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Re: Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
« Reply #7319 on: December 07, 2018, 03:56:12 PM »
The Phantom is my favorite bike in MKW

I like all boards in Mario Party 7 and 8

Blooper is my favorite Mario enemy