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Title: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Zuko on May 07, 2014, 03:38:18 PM
Self explanatory.

1. I like Cyrus, but I don't treat him like he succeeded in his plans and became a god. His battle theme isn't the best in the series, either. (I like some of the catchy battle themes in Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald.)

2. I disliked Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity. Gameplay is boring crap, and the story is dumbed down by stupid morals about postitive emotions and friendship.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Рождественский Малыш Луиджи on May 07, 2014, 03:40:09 PM
I prefer Pokemon Mystery Dungeon over the mainline games

I feel like Pokemon is just the same game again and again and it gets boring and tedious fast.

2. I disliked Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity. Gameplay is boring crap, and the story is dumbed down by stupid morals about postitive emotions and friendship.

Pretty much a lot of people feel this way actually
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on May 07, 2014, 03:43:55 PM
Unlike Mario Kart and Mario Party, Pokemon gets boring extremely quickly. Pokemon X and Y almost put me to sleep, with the "been there, done that" vibe bothering me constantly. I'm glad I didn't spend my $40 on it (I got it via Club Nintendo promotion).

I dislike Pokemon in general nowadays.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kazooie on May 07, 2014, 05:33:08 PM
I prefer Pokemon Mystery Dungeon over the mainline games

We have the same opinion there.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Рождественский Малыш Луиджи on May 07, 2014, 08:51:18 PM
I prefer Pokemon Mystery Dungeon over the mainline games

We have the same opinion there.

Yayyyy I'm not alone  :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Doof on May 07, 2014, 09:49:53 PM
Judging by playing one game, Blue Rescue Team, I do not like PMD at all.  The Gameplay was soooo boring.  It was literally the same thing every single time.  Although the plot was God-tier.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Рождественский Малыш Луиджи on May 07, 2014, 09:50:48 PM
I think Pokemon Red/Blue Rescue Team was the best one and the series just went downhill from there. I hated Explorers of Time/Darkness and Gates to Infinity looked like -----
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on May 07, 2014, 10:03:29 PM
Judging by playing one game, Blue Rescue Team, I do not like PMD at all.  The Gameplay was soooo boring.  It was literally the same thing every single time.  Although the plot was God-tier.
The plot was meh, but I did like Blue Rescue Team the most and moreso than the mainstream games.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: User4042 on May 07, 2014, 10:13:52 PM
I thought Gates to Infinity was really good
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Zuko on May 08, 2014, 08:58:36 AM
I think Pokemon Red/Blue Rescue Team was the best one and the series just went downhill from there. I hated Explorers of Time/Darkness and Gates to Infinity looked like -----
BTW, does the plot for Explorers of Time !@#$%-slap you with morals?

Also, I HATE Ash Ketchum. The Pokemon series had so much potential ruined by this whiny kid who loses practically all his battles.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: User4042 on May 08, 2014, 09:09:52 AM
Uh, Ash has nothing to do with this topic. It's in Video Games, and AFAIK, he only appeared in Puzzle League.

Kanto was the best region. This may just be nostalgia, as Blue was my first game.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Miki Hoshii on May 08, 2014, 09:22:30 AM
-I thought X and Y was a boring, slow and an overall disappointment.

-Roller Skates were a horrible addition.

-Mega Evolutions are pretty lame.

-The game boy games are still fun.

-slightly off-topic: Pokemon Origins was also boring.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: User4042 on May 08, 2014, 09:25:06 AM
-Roller Skates were a horrible addition.

-Mega Evolutions are pretty lame.

-The game boy games are still fun.
These.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Honoka's #5 Fan on May 08, 2014, 09:53:52 AM
Uh, Ash has nothing to do with this topic. It's in Video Games, and AFAIK, he only appeared in Puzzle League.

Kanto was the best region. This may just be nostalgia, as Blue was my first game.
So ash does have something to do with the topic
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Javelin on May 08, 2014, 09:54:35 AM
The only thing I (now) like about the series are the Pokemon themselves. Everything else just isn't fun anymore.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Smasher Claus on May 08, 2014, 09:59:02 AM
I've never been a big fan of HeartGold and SoulSilver and I'm currently not that excited for Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Рождественский Малыш Луиджи on May 08, 2014, 11:09:40 AM
I think Pokemon Red/Blue Rescue Team was the best one and the series just went downhill from there. I hated Explorers of Time/Darkness and Gates to Infinity looked like -----
BTW, does the plot for Explorers of Time !@#$%-slap you with morals?

Not really. The Wigglytuff Guild in general just pissed me off, especially Chatot. The worse thing is, I like Chatot as a Pokemon, but the Chatot in this game can just get stoned to death.

The only thing I (now) like about the series are the Pokemon themselves. Everything else just isn't fun anymore.

That could explain why I still purchase figures of Pokemon and why I can have a liking towards Pokemon in games I never played....
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Zuko on May 08, 2014, 12:22:13 PM
-I thought X and Y was a boring, slow and an overall disappointment.

-Roller Skates were a horrible addition.

-Mega Evolutions are pretty lame.

-The game boy games are still fun.

-slightly off-topic: Pokemon Origins was also boring.
You're a genwunner I assume?
BTW, why does everyone hate X and Y? Sure, it's not rage-inducingly difficult. If you enjoy screaming in rage, go cry yourself a river.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Doof on May 08, 2014, 12:35:07 PM
Even thoough I have never played it, what I have seen and heard of X and y, I love it!  Like, there is a chance that X and Y may become my second favorite generation!.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Cirdec on May 08, 2014, 01:50:46 PM
Jigglypuff is bad, Meloetta is the true singer.
Charizard is bad and didn't deserve two mega evolutions.
Aegislash and Scizor suck.
Dragonite and Flygon are bad dragons.
I prefer to use legendaries in battles.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kazuma on May 08, 2014, 01:58:18 PM
Glaceon is my favourite Eeveelution.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kazooie on May 08, 2014, 02:00:18 PM
You're a genwunner I assume?
BTW, why does everyone hate X and Y? Sure, it's not rage-inducingly difficult. If you enjoy screaming in rage, go cry yourself a river.

That's it, no more Rage Candy for you, mister!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Doof on May 08, 2014, 02:09:30 PM
Scizor suck.
I agree with this.  Although, it is mostly because I think Scyther is infinitely times more superior. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Broly on May 08, 2014, 02:37:17 PM
I don't really like gen 2.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Captain America on May 08, 2014, 02:42:21 PM
Scizor suck.
I agree with this.  Although, it is mostly because I think Scyther is infinitely times more superior. 
Dat technician bullet punch though.

KOs for days.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Cirdec on May 08, 2014, 02:46:20 PM
Scizor suck.
I agree with this.  Although, it is mostly because I think Scyther is infinitely times more superior. 
Dat technician bullet punch though.

KOs for days.

Meh, Arceus Extreme Speed is far better.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Captain America on May 08, 2014, 03:33:03 PM
Scizor suck.
I agree with this.  Although, it is mostly because I think Scyther is infinitely times more superior. 
Dat technician bullet punch though.

KOs for days.

Meh, Arceus Extreme Speed is far better.
Actually, STAB plus technician puts Bullet punch at a higher base power than extreme speed. Not to mention Scizor's attack stat is higher than Arceus.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Zuko on May 08, 2014, 03:43:04 PM
Even thoough I have never played it, what I have seen and heard of X and y, I love it!  Like, there is a chance that X and Y may become my second favorite generation!.
Not if you like to give crap about easy difficulty. BTW, what's your 1st-favorite?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Cirdec on May 08, 2014, 03:43:24 PM
Scizor suck.
I agree with this.  Although, it is mostly because I think Scyther is infinitely times more superior. 
Dat technician bullet punch though.

KOs for days.

Meh, Arceus Extreme Speed is far better.
Actually, STAB plus technician puts Bullet punch at a higher base power than extreme speed. Not to mention Scizor's attack stat is higher than Arceus.

No, Technician multiply the power of moves with the power inferior to 50 by 1.5. Considering STAB the actual power of Bullet Punch if Scizor use it is 40*1.5*1.5 = 90.
Arceus is Normal type so Extreme Speed has Stab. Hence the power of Extreme Speed if Arceus uses it is 80*1.5 = 120.
Also with neutral natures, Scizor max attack is 359 while Arceus is 339. In the damage formula, the damage is influenced by power* attack stat. 359*90 = 32310 < 339*120 = 40680 so Arceus Extreme Speed does more damage.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Tuxedo Ridley on May 08, 2014, 04:08:14 PM
Not if you like to give crap about easy difficulty.
Bleh. Pokemon has been pretty easy for a while now. Gen 3 didn't challenge me at all...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kazooie on May 08, 2014, 04:21:58 PM
Even thoough I have never played it, what I have seen and heard of X and y, I love it!  Like, there is a chance that X and Y may become my second favorite generation!.
Not if you like to give crap about easy difficulty. BTW, what's your 1st-favorite?

I like gen6 a lot, but it does have some legitimate shortcomings other than its difficulty (which I don't mind because if the game is too easy for you, just play it with some self-imposed restrictions). All in all it made some good additions to the usual formula, and the graphical overhaul is amazing.

But at the same time the game they built around that is a little... shallow at times. The utter forgettableness and wasted potential of your rivals comes to mind, or the fact that your actions never matter until maybe the very end. I went into greater detail about what bothers me here:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

In any case, you don't need to be a genwunner to throw some criticism at this generation, and running around calling people that is kind of dumb.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Doof on May 08, 2014, 05:05:15 PM
Even thoough I have never played it, what I have seen and heard of X and y, I love it!  Like, there is a chance that X and Y may become my second favorite generation!.
Not if you like to give crap about easy difficulty. BTW, what's your 1st-favorite?
Pokémon has always been easy, except I had a lot of trouble with SoulSilver, which is my favorite game.  And Gen II is my favorite  generation by miles.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: User4042 on May 08, 2014, 06:03:15 PM
Glaceon is my favourite Eeveelution.
^^^^^
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Purple Yoshi on May 08, 2014, 08:38:54 PM
Gen 5 is my favourite Pokemon generation.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Рождественский Малыш Луиджи on May 08, 2014, 08:42:22 PM
Who said the core Pokemon is hard? Just overgrind your Pokemon and know your strengths and weaknesses of Pokemon and exploit the bad AI. It isn't hard at all.

If you like challenge, battle against real people or something.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on May 08, 2014, 11:14:07 PM
Charizard sucks and everyone knows that from that battle depicted in that one Smash picture, Charizard will be the loser.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Captain America on May 08, 2014, 11:15:50 PM
That statement was true up until gen vi. He's now the most used Pokemon in OU. You can thank his mega forms for that
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Рождественский Малыш Луиджи on May 08, 2014, 11:40:59 PM
That statement was true up until gen vi. He's now the most used Pokemon in OU. You can thank his mega forms for that

Because GameFreak realized how much of a terrible Pokemon it always was and wanted to give its poor little baby a buff.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kazooie on May 09, 2014, 12:00:51 AM
I actually like Charizard.

I don't understand why it got two mega forms though...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Javelin on May 09, 2014, 12:04:42 AM
I actually like Charizard.
charizard isn't the coolest, but he's alright imo. the backlash hate against him for being popular is rather silly
I don't understand why it got two mega forms though...
Or Mewtwo, for that matter. Both of his mega forms look silly.

...

But that 194 Sp. Atk... it's so beautiful... n-no! My Mewtwo shall remain pure! No stupid appearances allowed!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kazooie on May 09, 2014, 12:19:58 AM
I actually like Charizard.
charizard isn't the coolest, but he's alright imo. the backlash hate against him for being popular is rather silly

Pretty much my opinion for most things hated for being popular. If you hate something, hate it for its actual flaws, not because others like it.

And before someone takes this as initiative to post a list of Charizard flaws, yes, I know it has a quadruple weakness to stealth rock, I know it is not dragon type, I know it is weak against Brock (if you don't know what you're doing), and I know it stole your lunch money and called you fat.

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I don't understand why it got two mega forms though...
Or Mewtwo, for that matter. Both of his mega forms look silly.

...

But that 194 Sp. Atk... it's so beautiful... n-no! My Mewtwo shall remain pure! No stupid appearances allowed!

Well, for Mewtwo it's a little less stupid though, because Mewtwo isn't part of a trio where one side having two forms over the others one forms looks extremely jarring.

They still both LOOK stupid, but the base idea is... okay...ish.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Javelin on May 09, 2014, 12:26:24 AM
And before someone takes this as initiative to post a list of Charizard flaws, yes, I know it has a quadruple weakness to stealth rock, I know it is not dragon type, I know it is weak against Brock (if you don't know what you're doing), and I know it stole your lunch money and called you fat.
^ new sig quote
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Doof on May 09, 2014, 12:51:04 AM
And before someone takes this as initiative to post a list of Charizard flaws, yes, I know it has a quadruple weakness to stealth rock, I know it is not dragon type, I know it is weak against Brock (if you don't know what you're doing), and I know it stole your lunch money and called you fat.
^ new sig quote
I came in and saw that, and I was like "Imma gonna sig that", then you sig it.  =

But yeah, I also think Charizard gets too much hate.  Espicially when the main excuse is that is is too popular/overrated.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Aiko Heiwa on May 09, 2014, 01:36:01 AM
the original pokémon games were never that good as nostalgia makes them seem, they were broken, had terrible graphics even considering the system, and were full of glitches
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Doof on May 09, 2014, 01:38:37 AM
Gen I is both nostalgic and not nostalgic to me at the same time, and I don't even know how that works.

I think maybe the anime in Gen I is more nostalgic than the game.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Miki Hoshii on May 09, 2014, 02:17:56 AM
-I thought X and Y was a boring, slow and an overall disappointment.

-Roller Skates were a horrible addition.

-Mega Evolutions are pretty lame.

-The game boy games are still fun.

-slightly off-topic: Pokemon Origins was also boring.
You're a genwunner I assume?
BTW, why does everyone hate X and Y? Sure, it's not rage-inducingly difficult. If you enjoy screaming in rage, go cry yourself a river.
No, don't assume I'm some jackass who tries to force his *bleep* onto everyone else. I posted my unpopular opinions because that was the point, not to have my opinions lessened by someone else. *bleep* your assumptions.

I enjoy all the games beside X/Y. Like I said; boring, slow and an overall disappointment. The additions were either neutral or bad and the region was horrible. The characters were all *bleep* and Lumiose City was horrendous.

the original pokémon games were never that good as nostalgia makes them seem, they were broken, had terrible graphics even considering the system, and were full of glitches
I'm playing through Red at the moment and I still think it's an enjoyable experience. Besides playing Yellow once when I was 3 and having it taken off me by my brother, I have no experience with Pokemon up until SoulSilver; so it's safe to say I don't have any nostalgia goggles on. I'm more compelled to play this game than I am Y version, if that gives you a perspective on how much I really did not enjoy X/Y.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Aiko Heiwa on May 09, 2014, 02:45:13 AM
X/Y were awful tho.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Рождественский Малыш Луиджи on May 09, 2014, 12:20:59 PM
I hate Charizard because mainly nearly everyone (everyone meaning people who don't understand stats and such) thinks it's a good Pokemon and its popularity makes it an overused Pokemon even in competitive environments where it gets destroyed. but I mostly hate it because it's just....loved for such a bland looking Pokemon. Honest opinion here. I mean, turtle cannon Blastoise is awesome. As well as giant Raffeslia Venusaur. But Charizard is just....an orange dragon with a fire tail. Yeah I think it's a bit on the uninspired side. I get why people would like it though, because I originally used Charizard...until I found out how much I liked Blastoise more.

I also don't like its favoritism that Nintendo in general seems to do with it. It gets two Mega Evolutions and it seems to be the only returning Pokemon Trainer Pokemon even though it's arguably the worst of the bunch.

I like Charizard only as a Pokeball Pokemon in Smash Bros. though. How many times it star kos the CPU opponents when they're mega large shouldn't be overlooked.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on May 09, 2014, 04:06:43 PM
I like to dislike Charizard. I still can't imagine why Charizard, out of all Pokaymon, got a returning playable appearance, especially over Pokaymon Trainer. Admittedly, Pokaymon Trainer was a really bad character, but he (she?) could've been straightened out instead of being completely ditched. Aside from Pikachu, Pokaymon Trainer is the most representative Pokaymon character, since you're controlling one after all. We have Pikachu and Jigglypuff, which are already two Gen I, but getting yet another Gen I standalone Pokaymon rather than Gen III or Gen V? Charizard feels forced in this game.

Charizard also got two Mega Evolutions, which is just a testament to how bad the original really is. Charizard is an attention whore along with Pikachu among GameFreak AND Pokaymon fans (like, the 6 year olds) when its design is nothing special; it's just nostalgic.

Charizard has flaws, in its generic dragon design, its bad typing, horrible movepool, and a meh playstyle in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. So yeah, its immense popularity despite these flaws, earns my ire.

I don't even know why I need to justify my opinions in an "unpopular opinion" thread, but I'll do it for clarity.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kazooie on May 09, 2014, 04:10:59 PM
its design is nothing special; it's just nostalgic.

I legitimately like its simplistic design, and it has nothing to do with nostalgia.

Sometimes less is more.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on May 09, 2014, 04:12:21 PM
I like Salamence, Dragonair, Hydregion, Goodra... it all boils down to personal taste, but even in its simplicity, I find the design to be unappealing.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kazooie on May 09, 2014, 04:41:57 PM
That is perfectly fine.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Captain America on May 09, 2014, 05:24:54 PM
I used to be in the hate Charizard camp. I used him in my Pokemon X play through and I really started liking him. Like Edo, I enjoy the simple design. Not to mention that with megas, he's finally viable.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Magikrazy on May 09, 2014, 06:53:02 PM
Why does everyone hate people who like Gen 1?

So what if people enjoy Red and Blue? I like Red and Blue. Does that make me a horrible person?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on May 09, 2014, 06:54:59 PM
Why does everyone hate people who like Gen 1?

So what if people enjoy Red and Blue? I like Red and Blue. Does that make me a horrible person?
Definitely, much worse than those who commit felonies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Рождественский Малыш Луиджи on May 09, 2014, 06:55:35 PM
Why does everyone hate people who like Gen 1?

So what if people enjoy Red and Blue? I like Red and Blue. Does that make me a horrible person?

People hate people who think Gen 1 is the only good generation
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Niime on May 09, 2014, 07:06:11 PM
gen 1 is the worst generation imo
 it's glitchy, the graphics/music aren't appealing, it's unbalanced, etc.
it may have been impressive when it came out, but not now
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on May 09, 2014, 07:10:54 PM
It aged so poorly. The items, the type balance (OK, so it isn't THAT much better today), the PC management, the Pokemon sprites (save for a few)... they're all terrible.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: User4042 on May 09, 2014, 07:12:36 PM
Why does everyone hate people who like Gen 1?
So what if people enjoy Red and Blue? I like Red and Blue. Does that make me a horrible person?
People hate people who think Gen 1 is the only good generation
I got called a "Gen-oner" for saying I like Yellow the best
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Tuxedo Ridley on May 09, 2014, 07:15:03 PM
It aged so poorly. The items, the type balance (OK, so it isn't THAT much better today), the PC management, the Pokemon sprites (save for a few)... they're all terrible.
Generation 1 was the worst offender in balancing though. Dragon was just about unstoppable(yes, it wasn't much better for 4 generations afterwards, but at least there was actually a type that resisted it)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Рождественский Малыш Луиджи on May 09, 2014, 07:15:48 PM
It aged so poorly. The items, the type balance (OK, so it isn't THAT much better today), the PC management, the Pokemon sprites (save for a few)... they're all terrible.
Generation 1 was the worst offender in balancing though. Dragon was just about unstoppable(yes, it wasn't much better for 4 generations afterwards, but at least there was actually a type that resisted it)

As well as Psychic types
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: User4042 on May 09, 2014, 07:15:52 PM
It aged so poorly. The items, the type balance (OK, so it isn't THAT much better today), the PC management, the Pokemon sprites (save for a few)... they're all terrible.
Generation 1 was the worst offender in balancing though. Dragon was just about unstoppable(yes, it wasn't much better for 4 generations afterwards, but at least there was actually a type that resisted it)
Technically Dragon had two weaknesses but only one actually worked :yoshi:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Miki Hoshii on May 09, 2014, 07:19:08 PM
I like how that has become a derogatory term now. 'You like a game that's old? Genwunner.'

It's fine to tell people that are trying to force their beliefs that gen I is the best and only good one that they're a bunch of *bleep*ing idiots, but I see it used to describe just anyone who liked Gen I at all.

Red is fun, to an extent. It has its flaws but it's still an enjoyable game.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Tuxedo Ridley on May 09, 2014, 07:20:47 PM
It seems like Steel was just added in for the purpose of slightly weakening Dragon and Psychic. Although, it being resistant to almost everything arguably makes it unbalanced in itself.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Рождественский Малыш Луиджи on May 09, 2014, 07:23:14 PM
It seems like Steel was just added in for the purpose of slightly weakening Dragon and Psychic. Although, it being resistant to almost everything arguably makes it unbalanced in itself.

The balance is that Steel is an awful offensive typing
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on May 09, 2014, 07:25:38 PM
It aged so poorly. The items, the type balance (OK, so it isn't THAT much better today), the PC management, the Pokemon sprites (save for a few)... they're all terrible.
Generation 1 was the worst offender in balancing though. Dragon was just about unstoppable(yes, it wasn't much better for 4 generations afterwards, but at least there was actually a type that resisted it)
The only dragon move was Dragon Rage, and it inflicted set damage, so there really wasn't any offensive dragon type moves.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Tuxedo Ridley on May 09, 2014, 07:30:34 PM
It aged so poorly. The items, the type balance (OK, so it isn't THAT much better today), the PC management, the Pokemon sprites (save for a few)... they're all terrible.
Generation 1 was the worst offender in balancing though. Dragon was just about unstoppable(yes, it wasn't much better for 4 generations afterwards, but at least there was actually a type that resisted it)
The only dragon move was Dragon Rage, and it inflicted set damage, so there really wasn't any offensive dragon type moves.
And as for the Psychic type?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Рождественский Малыш Луиджи on May 09, 2014, 07:31:33 PM
It aged so poorly. The items, the type balance (OK, so it isn't THAT much better today), the PC management, the Pokemon sprites (save for a few)... they're all terrible.
Generation 1 was the worst offender in balancing though. Dragon was just about unstoppable(yes, it wasn't much better for 4 generations afterwards, but at least there was actually a type that resisted it)
The only dragon move was Dragon Rage, and it inflicted set damage, so there really wasn't any offensive dragon type moves.
And as for the Psychic type?

Almost nothing resists them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Tuxedo Ridley on May 09, 2014, 07:32:38 PM
It aged so poorly. The items, the type balance (OK, so it isn't THAT much better today), the PC management, the Pokemon sprites (save for a few)... they're all terrible.
Generation 1 was the worst offender in balancing though. Dragon was just about unstoppable(yes, it wasn't much better for 4 generations afterwards, but at least there was actually a type that resisted it)
The only dragon move was Dragon Rage, and it inflicted set damage, so there really wasn't any offensive dragon type moves.
And as for the Psychic type?

Almost nothing resists them.
And one of the types that does is bugged up, so it doesn't.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: User4042 on May 09, 2014, 07:47:05 PM
The only type good against Psychic was Bug's Twineedle
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Javelin on May 09, 2014, 08:01:15 PM
its design is nothing special; it's just nostalgic.
I legitimately like its simplistic design, and it has nothing to do with nostalgia.

Sometimes less is more.
Gen I's simpler designs are great, usually. Look at Gengar, he's really a simple design but it still manages to be more impressive than most Ghost-types.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Рождественский Малыш Луиджи on May 09, 2014, 08:01:58 PM
But then you get evolutions where you just glue three Pokemon together. :P

Magnezone>>>>Magneton
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on May 09, 2014, 08:07:37 PM
its design is nothing special; it's just nostalgic.
I legitimately like its simplistic design, and it has nothing to do with nostalgia.

Sometimes less is more.
Gen I's simpler designs are great, usually. Look at Gengar, he's really a simple design but it still manages to be more impressive than most Ghost-types.
Haunter looks better, IMO.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Doof on May 09, 2014, 10:36:17 PM
its design is nothing special; it's just nostalgic.
I legitimately like its simplistic design, and it has nothing to do with nostalgia.

Sometimes less is more.
Gen I's simpler designs are great, usually. Look at Gengar, he's really a simple design but it still manages to be more impressive than most Ghost-types.
Haunter looks better, IMO.
This, and I thought no one else shared my opinion on that.  HIGH FIVE!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: User4042 on May 09, 2014, 10:37:29 PM
But then you get evolutions where you just glue three Pokemon together. :P

[...]Magneton
BUT WAIT
Magneton weighs ten times more than Magnemite
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Miki Hoshii on May 09, 2014, 10:44:10 PM
That is some heavy magnetic forces.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Honoka's #5 Fan on May 09, 2014, 10:47:41 PM
I like how that has become a derogatory term now. 'You like a game that's old? Genwunner.'

It's fine to tell people that are trying to force their beliefs that gen I is the best and only good one that they're a bunch of *bleep*ing idiots, but I see it used to describe just anyone who liked Gen I at all.
Yes how dare they have a different opinion those mother*bleep*ers
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Miki Hoshii on May 09, 2014, 10:50:31 PM
I like how that has become a derogatory term now. 'You like a game that's old? Genwunner.'

It's fine to tell people that are trying to force their beliefs that gen I is the best and only good one that they're a bunch of *bleep*ing idiots, but I see it used to describe just anyone who liked Gen I at all.
Yes how dare they have a different opinion those mother*bleep*ers
Yes how dare they tell me what I can and can't like
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Anser on May 10, 2014, 06:20:01 AM
The only type good against Psychic was Bug's Twineedle

Which could only be used by Beedrill, who is not only weak to Psychic because of its Poison typing, but also because it's slow, weak and overall a terrible Pokémon. There was also Pin Missile, but it could only be used by Jolteon, who didn't get STAB from it, and it was a very weak move too. Yeah, Psychic was broken as hell in Gen I.

Here goes my unpopular opinion: I hated FireRed and LeafGreen because of one sole reason: the music. I think they couldn't have done a worse job remastering the songs from the original games even if they wanted to.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: User4042 on May 10, 2014, 06:23:45 AM
They did it pretty well, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kazooie on May 10, 2014, 03:09:19 PM
The only type good against Psychic was Bug's Twineedle

Which could only be used by Beedrill, who is not only weak to Psychic because of its Poison typing, but also because it's slow, weak and overall a terrible Pokémon. There was also Pin Missile, but it could only be used by Jolteon, who didn't get STAB from it, and it was a very weak move too. Yeah, Psychic was broken as hell in Gen I.

Here goes my unpopular opinion: I hated FireRed and LeafGreen because of one sole reason: the music. I think they couldn't have done a worse job remastering the songs from the original games even if they wanted to.

I didn't hate the music in those remakes, but I do think some of the songs lacked something.

Some people call the champion battle theme from that game the best official rendition of the theme. I think it doesn't quite live up to Pokémon Stadium's version of it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Javelin on May 10, 2014, 05:14:28 PM
Some people call the champion battle theme from that game the best official rendition of the theme. I think it doesn't quite live up to Pokémon Stadium's version of it.
I personally feel the Gen III version of the Kanto champion theme is the best music in the series.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Honoka's #5 Fan on May 10, 2014, 05:16:00 PM
Never listen to the music
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: User4042 on May 10, 2014, 07:08:53 PM
Some people call the champion battle theme from that game the best official rendition of the theme. I think it doesn't quite live up to Pokémon Stadium's version of it.
I personally feel the Gen III version of the Kanto champion theme is the best music in the series.

DO IT
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Zuko on May 12, 2014, 09:05:52 AM
Here's one: I don't hate genwunners for Pokemon because I don't have any experience with one. I might have an idea of what they're like though judging on the Sonic fanbase.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: User4042 on May 12, 2014, 09:09:06 AM
Here's one: I don't hate genwunners for Pokemon because I don't have any experience with one. I might have an idea of what they're like though judging on the Sonic fanbase.
Generation I was the best generation, but the others are great, too.
inb4calledgen-oner
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on May 12, 2014, 11:44:31 PM
Here goes my unpopular opinion: I hated FireRed and LeafGreen because of one sole reason: the music. I think they couldn't have done a worse job remastering the songs from the original games even if they wanted to.
I found the L/R help menu the worst thing about that game.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Doof on May 13, 2014, 07:48:22 PM
I think Mega Charizard Y looks better than Mega Charizard X.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on May 13, 2014, 07:50:15 PM
The horns on Charizard X look so disgusting.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Doof on May 13, 2014, 07:51:40 PM
Woah there, I wouldn't go that far. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on May 13, 2014, 07:54:59 PM
I really don't like its shoulder horns, though.

(http://www.serebii.net/art/th/6-mx.png)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Doof on May 13, 2014, 09:23:43 PM
OK, yeah, those are a little weird.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kazooie on May 13, 2014, 09:28:51 PM
I don't really understand the blue permafire that comes from the mouth. What is it supposed to be? A weird mustache? Bad breath? Fire incontinence?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Doof on May 13, 2014, 09:33:44 PM
I don't really understand the blue permafire that comes from the mouth. What is it supposed to be? A weird mustache? Bad breath? Fire incontinence?
That is actually my main issue with Mega Charizard X.  Like with Mega Y, the coloring is the same, but the design looks soooo much cooler.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kazooie on May 13, 2014, 09:35:38 PM
Not really a big fan of the wing arms though. The ones on the back seem sufficient.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Doof on May 13, 2014, 09:36:45 PM
Not really a big fan of the wing arms though. The ones on the back seem sufficient.
I am a really big fan of that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Captain America on May 13, 2014, 09:39:17 PM
I love Mega Charizard X just because it's a badass black dragon that spits blue fire and has a monstrous attack stat plus an attack boosting ability. Fear the Flare Blitz.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Harukkah Amami on May 13, 2014, 09:45:37 PM
monstrous attack stat
Base 130 is big? That's the same as it's Special Attack. Hell, if it weren't for it's ability, Mega Charizard X's only saving grace would be the Dragon type...and even then, Fairies are everywhere.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on May 13, 2014, 10:23:32 PM
Base 130 Attack + Attack boosting ability = not to be underestimated.

Fire/Dragon is also an entirely unresisted combo.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Рождественский Малыш Луиджи on May 13, 2014, 10:29:10 PM
Fire/Dragon is also an entirely unresisted combo.

Carbink and Diancie (Rock/Fairy) resists it
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on May 13, 2014, 10:29:56 PM
Can it survive a coverage move though?

Fine, nearly unresisted. F'ing fairy type.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Gamefreak75 on May 13, 2014, 10:32:49 PM
Well, Charizard can learn Earthquake and can be imported from Gen V with Iron Tail, so there's that.

Also, I like Charizard X better because he's blue (his fire and half his body is, at least), but his shiny is godawful.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Рождественский Малыш Луиджи on May 13, 2014, 10:34:39 PM
Can it survive a coverage move though?

Maybe not, but they have really high defenses. Are they a counter to Mega Charizard X? Unless they are a phazer, probably not.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Doof on May 13, 2014, 10:35:40 PM
but his shiny is godawful.
His shiny looks like Salamence and it is freaky.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kazooie on May 13, 2014, 10:36:32 PM
Also, I like Charizard X better because he's blue (his fire and half his body is, at least), but his shiny is godawful.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/708388aee4854512a2192cf6a18b3cdb/tumblr_mv1h0l9tRd1rnoavco1_1280.jpg)

Hmmm...

(http://wikimon.net/images/7/71/Dracomon.jpg)

Fascinating.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Doof on May 13, 2014, 10:38:27 PM
OMG, it does also look like Dracomon!!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Рождественский Малыш Луиджи on May 13, 2014, 10:38:40 PM
Or... as DragonFreak said

I just realized something....

Shiny Mega Charizard X
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/708388aee4854512a2192cf6a18b3cdb/tumblr_mv1h0l9tRd1rnoavco1_1280.jpg)

Salamence
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/4/41/373Salamence.png/250px-373Salamence.png)

They're the same!!!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on May 13, 2014, 10:39:42 PM
Ugh, now those shoulder horns look like acne.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Doof on May 13, 2014, 10:41:30 PM
Now let's ponder whether reptiles can get acne.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Gamefreak75 on May 13, 2014, 10:41:38 PM
It looks more greenish to in-game, in my opinion, just like most of the other dragon shinies.

Why are a lot of the shiny forms of Dragons green? Just off the top of my head there's Dragonite, Salamence, Noivern and Hydreigon. Although I guess the same can be said about a lot of water types having a purple shiny.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kazooie on May 13, 2014, 10:44:59 PM
Because green is a classic dragon color.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Captain America on May 13, 2014, 10:47:25 PM
Then where is my green Goomy?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Gamefreak75 on May 13, 2014, 10:47:59 PM
Because green is a classic dragon color.

You know, I never thought of it like that and it does make sense.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: User4042 on May 14, 2014, 02:02:49 PM
Can it survive a coverage move though?

Fine, nearly unresisted. F'ing fairy type.
Sableye and Spiritomb have weaknesses now due to fairy. :(

I like Zapdos better than the other legendary bird trio members.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Cirdec on May 14, 2014, 04:01:55 PM
Can it survive a coverage move though?

Fine, nearly unresisted. F'ing fairy type.
Sableye and Spiritomb have weaknesses now due to fairy. :(


There is still Eelektross as the Pokémon with no weakness.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Рождественский Малыш Луиджи on May 14, 2014, 04:46:04 PM
Can it survive a coverage move though?

Fine, nearly unresisted. F'ing fairy type.
Sableye and Spiritomb have weaknesses now due to fairy. :(


There is still Eelektross as the Pokémon with no weakness.

Mold Breaker Earthquake or using Gravity could render its levitate useless though.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on May 14, 2014, 08:39:15 PM
Can it survive a coverage move though?

Fine, nearly unresisted. F'ing fairy type.
Sableye and Spiritomb have weaknesses now due to fairy. :(


There is still Eelektross as the Pokémon with no weakness.
Abilities don't count.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kazuma on May 14, 2014, 09:01:41 PM
Can it survive a coverage move though?

Fine, nearly unresisted. F'ing fairy type.
Sableye and Spiritomb have weaknesses now due to fairy. :(


There is still Eelektross as the Pokémon with no weakness.

Mold Breaker Earthquake or using Gravity could render its levitate useless though.

As would Smack Down or a use of Trick/Switcheroo with an Iron Ball on, though the former is more likely.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Cirdec on May 15, 2014, 05:51:42 AM
Can it survive a coverage move though?

Fine, nearly unresisted. F'ing fairy type.
Sableye and Spiritomb have weaknesses now due to fairy. :(


There is still Eelektross as the Pokémon with no weakness.
Abilities don't count.

Then I don't think there are double type combinations with no weakness.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: User4042 on May 15, 2014, 05:48:54 PM
Can it survive a coverage move though?

Fine, nearly unresisted. F'ing fairy type.
Sableye and Spiritomb have weaknesses now due to fairy. :(


There is still Eelektross as the Pokémon with no weakness.
Abilities don't count.

Then I don't think there are double type combinations with no weakness.
Pokémon can now be triple typed with Trick-or-Treat. :yoshi:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Zuko on August 14, 2014, 05:28:08 PM
I ABSOLUTELY DESPISE the Normal type. Whenever I find a Pokemon I'm interested in catching, I look it up to make sure it isn't Normal.

My opinion is mixed on the Fairy type. They're quite powerful, but I can't stand the cutesy designs.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Javelin on August 14, 2014, 05:28:57 PM
I ABSOLUTELY DESPISE the Normal type. Whenever I find a Pokemon I'm interested in catching, I look it up to make sure it isn't Normal.
it's funny because your name is eevee right now
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Zuko on August 14, 2014, 05:30:25 PM
I ABSOLUTELY DESPISE the Normal type. Whenever I find a Pokemon I'm interested in catching, I look it up to make sure it isn't Normal.
it's funny because your name is eevee right now
I evolve as soon as I can.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Doof on August 14, 2014, 05:32:56 PM
Yeah I hate normal types too, except for Eevee and Miltank. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Zuko on August 14, 2014, 05:37:49 PM
I hate normal types too, except for Eevee
Thanks mah boi (I may change my username to King Harkinian, actually)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Danny Phantom on August 14, 2014, 06:04:00 PM
I used to feel the same way, until I used Miltank, Tauros (in Gen 4 and beyond), Stoutland, and Kangaskhan.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Zuko on August 14, 2014, 06:31:26 PM
The main Gen 4 games had a crappy soundtrack (I HATE the wild battle theme.)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Danny Phantom on August 14, 2014, 06:33:49 PM
I'm not a fan of grass types, in terms of defensive power.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Cirdec on August 15, 2014, 03:33:47 AM
I'm not a fan of grass types, in terms of defensive power.

Mega Venusaur? Ferrothorn?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Ninelevendo on August 15, 2014, 04:03:08 AM
The main Gen 4 games had a crappy soundtrack (I HATE the wild battle theme.)
What? HeartGold and SoulSilvers was great! Normal types do suck, but at least they get STAB from normal moves.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: POP on August 15, 2014, 05:29:42 AM
My list:

- Charizard is overrated and overused (4x weakness to rock really hurts), and didn't deserve two mega evolutions.

- Mega evolutions in general are pretty lame and stupid and makes some pokčmon waaay overpowered. I would rather have pokčmon like Mawile and Sableye receive actual evolutions instead of mega evolutions.

- My favorite type is grass, and my favorite pokčmon is Bellossom.

- I pick my pokčmon based on their appearance rather than their effectiveness in the competitive game.

- PMD: Explorers of Time, Darkness and Sky are the best games in the series.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Miki Hoshii on August 15, 2014, 05:32:16 AM
I don't like Mega Evolutions either. They look cool, but I hate using them and the entire mega evolution system.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Ninelevendo on August 15, 2014, 05:49:30 AM
They just made room for fan service.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Zuko on August 15, 2014, 09:32:45 AM
- PMD: Explorers of Time, Darkness and Sky are the best games in the series.
That's not unpopular. Many people love it's story.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Tuxedo Ridley on August 15, 2014, 10:24:09 AM
- I pick my pokčmon based on their appearance rather than their effectiveness in the competitive game.
Don't really think that's unpopular, I mostly pick my Pokémon based off of personal preference. Although, I generally only play single player.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kazooie on August 15, 2014, 10:28:20 AM
- I pick my pokčmon based on their appearance rather than their effectiveness in the competitive game.

- PMD: Explorers of Time, Darkness and Sky are the best games in the series.

I actually agree. Wholeheartedly.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Danny Phantom on August 15, 2014, 11:22:41 AM
I'm not a fan of grass types, in terms of defensive power.

Ferrothorn?

Flamethrower says hello.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Cirdec on August 15, 2014, 11:28:05 AM
I'm not a fan of grass types, in terms of defensive power.

Ferrothorn?

Flamethrower says hello.

Lol Rayquaza sucks because Ice Beam says hello.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Danny Phantom on August 15, 2014, 11:41:42 AM
Rayquaza at least has enough speed and attacks against ice to be more effective.

Ferrothorn's too slow to out speed most fire types.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kazooie on August 15, 2014, 11:45:16 AM
There is probably some incredibly advanced high skill reason that only the most dedicated of competitive players understand, but can't you just not use it against fire types then?

There's more than one Pokémon allowed in your team. You're supposed to make it balanced to counter such weaknesses.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Danny Phantom on August 15, 2014, 11:53:59 AM
True, but other types usually have less weaknesses, letting me focus on offense instead of worrying about defense.
 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Cirdec on August 15, 2014, 12:24:02 PM
Grass/Steel is an awesome defensive type, only week to Fighting and Fire.
Immunity to Poison and Toxic, resists Water, Electric, Dragon, Rock, Fairy, Stell, Grass, Normal and Psychic.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Tuxedo Ridley on August 15, 2014, 12:29:06 PM
X4 weakness to a commonly used type hurts though.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Nyrie on August 15, 2014, 02:37:23 PM
I don't like any of the Gen V starters.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kart Player 2008 on August 15, 2014, 02:38:09 PM
I don't like any of the Gen V starters.
me neither.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Tuxedo Ridley on August 15, 2014, 03:49:39 PM
Samurott is pretty cool, I guess. I can't say I like any of the others.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Cirdec on August 15, 2014, 03:59:21 PM
I like Serperior and I would use it, but if only we could get one with Contrary ability. Without this hidden ability this Pokémon sucks so much.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: POP on August 15, 2014, 04:22:55 PM
I like Serperior and I would use it, but if only we could get one with Contrary ability. Without this hidden ability this Pokémon sucks so much.
This.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Zuko on August 15, 2014, 05:54:25 PM
X and Y didn't have the best graphics on the 3DS (but I still liked them)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on August 16, 2014, 02:50:17 PM
X and Y didn't have the best graphics on the 3DS (but I still liked them)
It didn't have the best graphics by far.

I daresay, it's a hideous game.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Рождественский Малыш Луиджи on August 16, 2014, 03:33:31 PM
Ocarina of Time 3D has much better graphics than Pokemon.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Zuko on August 16, 2014, 05:19:00 PM
Ocarina of Time 3D has much better graphics than Pokemon.
The point is that Pokemon had crappy graphics, right? Because OoT3D's graphics were terrible.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Рождественский Малыш Луиджи on August 16, 2014, 06:13:00 PM
No, I think Ocarina of Time 3D's graphics are really great.

It's a freaking 3DS game, of course it might look relatively subpar to other games.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Zuko on September 29, 2014, 01:03:08 PM
I think Lavender Town's theme is more depressing than scary.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Рождественский Малыш Луиджи on September 29, 2014, 09:04:45 PM
When I was a kid, I always thought Lavender Town's music sounded incredibly stupid
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Marcia on September 29, 2014, 09:05:43 PM
Flareon is awesome and underrated.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: TheFarmboy on September 30, 2014, 07:41:33 AM
I hate Charizard... that would brand me as a heritic, right?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Tuxedo Ridley on September 30, 2014, 09:06:01 PM
I hate Charizard... that would brand me as a heritic, right?
Don't worry, I hate it too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Javelin on September 30, 2014, 09:17:22 PM
Flareon is awesome and underrated.
i always liked flareon's design but its stats are just unbelievably meh
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Zuko on October 01, 2014, 10:18:00 AM
Lysandre was the best villain.
And N's Farewell is a better tune than Emotions because its depression is more sincere.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Duskull on October 05, 2014, 02:51:10 PM
I don't like the design of Mega Rayquaza.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Ninelevendo on October 09, 2014, 02:26:28 AM
That's unpopular? Cause I don't disagree.

Not that I liked the whole Mega thing to begin with.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on October 09, 2014, 02:44:09 AM
I dislike most Mega Evolutions.

*looks at Mega Rayquaza*

Its mouth ruins it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Marcia on October 11, 2014, 01:58:21 PM
Gen 2 was boring and had terrible levelling.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Meta Knight on October 11, 2014, 06:24:29 PM
Fairy type is annoying.
RSE had the best soundtrack.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Zuko on October 11, 2014, 06:42:21 PM
Fairy type is annoying.
RSE had the best soundtrack.
1. Fairy type is too cutesy, with a few exceptions.
2. Agreed. The songs are just so catchy!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on October 12, 2014, 01:39:54 AM
Fairy type is a missed opportunity, and it failed spectacularly at balancing types.

My god, what has Pokemon become?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Cirdec on October 12, 2014, 04:41:50 AM
Fairy type is a missed opportunity, and it failed spectacularly at balancing types.

My god, what has Pokemon become?

How it failed at balancing types? Thanks to Fairy type, You are not forced to use a Steel type on your team.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Marcia on October 12, 2014, 09:37:19 AM
Fairy type is a missed opportunity, and it failed spectacularly at balancing types.

My god, what has Pokemon become?

How it failed at balancing types? Thanks to Fairy type, You are not forced to use a Steel type on your team.

But you still do because Steel counters Fairy. I'm not too happy with Fairies because they ruined my favourite type.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Captain America on October 12, 2014, 10:22:00 AM
Your favorite type was also kinda overpowered. It needed the balancing.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Meta Knight on October 12, 2014, 12:05:17 PM
Dragon is one of my favorite types too, but I can see why they needed to have balancing.

 I'm annoyed about is that by some *bleeping* coincidence, it has to take out my second favorite type, dark.
 You made fairy type so that Spiritomb and sableye would finally have a weakness to prevent hacked wonder guard of those said Pokemon. So why couldn't they just ban hacked Pokemon from online play like they tried to for Pokemon bank?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Zuko on February 26, 2016, 03:57:18 PM
Sorry for bumping this thread, but I just have to say this: I'm glad Sun and Moon aren't on the NX. I don't want to have to buy a whole new console to play them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kokichi Oma on February 26, 2016, 04:37:03 PM
I think the first generation is the worst generation and that all the other generations improved upon it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Chiaki Nanami on February 26, 2016, 05:14:23 PM
I dislike every main series game due to the fact that you cannot catch every Pokémon in them. I do understand why trading might appeal to others, but it is not something for me. It doesn't matter if getting every Pokémon within the game itself takes hours of overcoming extremely difficult challenges, I want it to be in the game so I can do everything regardless of when I reset a file. I also don't want to be dependent on other people giving me what I want since that's ridiculous and it makes me feel needy, clingy and a nagging ass who nobody wants to deal with. Also, *bleep* event-only Pokémon, they are the absolute worst. They lock you out of content in the most asinine way possible. Making content in games dependent on your geographical location in real life and whether you were a fan of the series at the time the event happened should never be acceptable, full stop.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Rintarou Okabe on February 26, 2016, 05:17:46 PM
I don't play pokémon games.

that in itself should be unpopular enough.

I don't dislike the franchise but I just don't do, similar to fire emblem (although thats because im ridiculously bad at it, fe 8 was the only one ive tried and i couldnt beat it)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kokichi Oma on February 26, 2016, 06:04:09 PM
I think that legal Pokémon are just as valid as legit Pokémon and it doesn't require any skill at all to hatch a million eggs just to get the perfect IVs. Literally, it's all RNG, and it's silly that people boast that they got their Pokémon the legitimate way, through pure skill and hard work. Yeah, the hard work of biking back and forth on a route all day. No thank you. Heck, if you're lucky enough, you can get a perfect Pokémon within the first egg and no one would know, which makes it into a game of he said, she said anyway.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Captain America on February 26, 2016, 07:13:53 PM
I think it's more about the dedication. It shows patience and devotion to what you're doing.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Рождественский Малыш Луиджи on February 26, 2016, 07:15:05 PM
I'd say hacking your game to get a perfect IV, yet legal Pokemon is more devotion than just pain-stakingly praying to the RNG gods.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kokichi Oma on February 26, 2016, 07:44:57 PM
I think it's more about the dedication. It shows patience and devotion to what you're doing.
That still doesn't really factor in the fact that you could just get lucky and hatch the right egg the instant that you get it. It took me maybe two hours to get a shiny Eevee, two days to get a perfect Houndour (perfect IVs in all stat, the perfect nature, the exact stats I wanted, the better of its abilities, etc.), and then five days to get the exact Eevee that I wanted. It's entirely random each time, but even though the Houndour is undeniably better than the Eevee (the one that took me five days, that is, which only had five perfect IVs, decent egg moves, Hidden Ability, etc.), according to the whole "time = effort" scale, I apparently worked harder for the Eevee.

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I'd say hacking your game to get a perfect IV, yet legal Pokemon is more devotion than just pain-stakingly praying to the RNG gods.
I mean, in a lot of cases you need to buy an external cheating device for that to even be possible. And even if you don't and you play around with the coding itself, that takes skill all on its own.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Marcia on February 26, 2016, 09:34:30 PM
- I found Gen VI very mediocre.

-I love the glitches in Gen I, and don't see why Missingno gets so much hate.

-I hack Pokemon with perfect IVs and shininess and I don't give a *bleep*.

-Gen V was really underrated.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on February 26, 2016, 09:56:35 PM
I think that legal Pokémon are just as valid as legit Pokémon and it doesn't require any skill at all to hatch a million eggs just to get the perfect IVs. Literally, it's all RNG, and it's silly that people boast that they got their Pokémon the legitimate way, through pure skill and hard work. Yeah, the hard work of biking back and forth on a route all day. No thank you. Heck, if you're lucky enough, you can get a perfect Pokémon within the first egg and no one would know, which makes it into a game of he said, she said anyway.
Yes, they are just as valid because in the end, the Pokémon are identical whenever you spend 1-6,000 days breeding 1 to 50 million babies or spend a few minutes hacking them into existence. With an archaic IV system complete with natures, abilities, and many other uncontrollable random variables, Pokémon is begging for people to hack their games because there are hardly any sane people who are willing to go through hours of simulated puppy breeding mills to get 31 IVs across the board just so they can barely compete in the metagame, nor does anyone deserve going through such mind-numbing torture. Why would anyone want to do this when hacking is readily available and much more mentally stimulating? This isn't "patience" and "devotion", it's just dumb luck similar to spending hours in front of a slot machine.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kokichi Oma on February 26, 2016, 09:59:36 PM
Yes, they are just as valid because in the end, the Pokémon are identical whenever you spend 1-6,000 days breeding 1 to 50 million babies or spend a few minutes hacking them into existence. With an archaic IV system complete with natures, abilities, and many other uncontrollable random variables, Pokémon is begging for people to hack their games because there are hardly any sane people who are willing to go through hours of simulated puppy breeding mills to get 31 IVs across the board just so they can barely compete in the metagame, nor does anyone deserve going through such mind-numbing torture. Why would anyone want to do this when hacking is readily available and much more mentally stimulating? This isn't "patience" and "devotion", it's just dumb luck similar to spending hours in front of a slot machine.
Honestly, I'm not even entirely convinced that people on those Pokémon forums don't hack some of them in. They can claim all they want that they painstakingly bred them, but it's just a touch suspicious to me that they're able to produce the exact Pokémon I want to trade them for.

Plus the real skill is in how you use 'em, not how you get 'em.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Cirdec on February 27, 2016, 04:54:07 AM
This is even worse for legendaries because no breeding. 3 perfect guaranted IV is not enough because the odd of getting a 5 perfect IV legendary with the right nature and in the rights stats is 27/50*(1/2*(1/32)2+1/2*(1/32)3), approximately 0,03%.
So it is needed to do at least 2549 tries to have more than 50% chance to get at least one perfect.
This is pretty much why I still didn't catch all the legendaries in my Alpha Sapphire game and I don't bother to get perfect stats.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on February 27, 2016, 02:48:37 PM
Oh hell, yeah, I didn't even take that into account. That would mean a lot of freaking restarts on catching those things. Must be mind-numbing. Kind of like speed-running Pokémon, but less rewarding because hacking exists, and hacking has existed to help make it easier for those willing to go in the competitive scene. It's like turning down a car to walk all the way to work.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kokichi Oma on February 27, 2016, 02:57:29 PM
This is even worse for legendaries because no breeding. 3 perfect guaranted IV is not enough because the odd of getting a 5 perfect IV legendary with the right nature and in the rights stats is 27/50*(1/2*(1/32)2+1/2*(1/32)3), approximately 0,03%.
So it is needed to do at least 2549 tries to have more than 50% chance to get at least one perfect.
This is pretty much why I still didn't catch all the legendaries in my Alpha Sapphire game and I don't bother to get perfect stats.
I remember getting a shiny Giratina with all perfect IVs from Wonder Trade. There is no way that wasn't RNG manipulated or hacked.

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It's like turning down a car to walk all the way to work.
This analogy would be perfect if it weren't for the fact that walking can actually be physically beneficial.

There's, like, literally no benefit whatsoever to relying on RNG. Except maybe the fact that you'll be allowed in more tournaments, but a lot of systems can't actually catch hacked Pokémon if they're legal.

Also while I have considered it, speedrunning Pokémon seems like it's a nightmare since RNG can ruin your run at every step. Most of the high records are because people got lucky on the important fights.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Captain America on February 27, 2016, 03:00:07 PM
There was a shiny Giratina giveaway years ago. It was probably something they soft reset for.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Kokichi Oma on February 27, 2016, 03:19:41 PM
That still doesn't change the fact that it's possible to RNG manipulate legendaries.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on February 27, 2016, 03:23:55 PM
I remember getting a shiny Giratina with all perfect IVs from Wonder Trade. There is no way that wasn't RNG manipulated or hacked.
It's still possible (after all, you're nearly as likely to get a Pokemon that has a bold nature and a 20/4/13/17/20/14 IV spread) but yeah, it's more likely that RNG manipulation was done. And that the person was willing to turn it over via Wonder Trade... although there can be a lot of legit reasons for that too.

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It's like turning down a car to walk all the way to work.
This analogy would be perfect if it weren't for the fact that walking can actually be physically beneficial.

There's, like, literally no benefit whatsoever to relying on RNG. Except maybe the fact that you'll be allowed in more tournaments, but a lot of systems can't actually catch hacked Pokémon if they're legal.

Also while I have considered it, speedrunning Pokémon seems like it's a nightmare since RNG can ruin your run at every step. Most of the high records are because people got lucky on the important fights.
Yeah, that's true. I would also factor in environmental benefits as well, but otherwise, no one is going to walk to work when it's 10 miles away in this time and age. I think the only benefit from RNG is just these good feelings that you didn't cheat or something, but it's not really bragging rights. I'd just feel pity, not even in a condescending kind of pity, just that no one deserves this. But yeah, it's still going to be really hard for tournaments to distinguish between generating Pokemon and sheer time spent on breeding, so I really think people should just generate Pokemon and find out much earlier what competitive combination and tactics work rather than waste time on breeding mills/soft resetting.

There was a shiny Giratina giveaway years ago. It was probably something they soft reset for.
I don't see why they'd have to if they really did it. And besides those who make official mass distribution events have all access to the numbers and data, I'd think it would be more likely that they just generated those to save time and money and focus on other things like developing new Pokemon/forms.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Cirdec on February 28, 2016, 04:26:44 PM
Since Pokémon from Red, Blue and Yellow will be able to be transferred to Sun Moon, that makes me hope Gen 7 will get rid of IVs (read, every Pokémon will have 31 IV in every stat). Because in Gen 1 instead of IV there were DV, values between 0 and 15.
But that sounds too good to be true.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Afterstormer on March 02, 2016, 12:54:59 PM
Since Pokémon from Red, Blue and Yellow will be able to be transferred to Sun & Moon.

Machamp with No Guard + Fissure TM = Uber.

Then transfer that to Sun & Moon... What have I done

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/sNWGEbc5Jzp4c/200_s.gif)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Cirdec on March 02, 2016, 04:12:49 PM
Since Pokémon from Red, Blue and Yellow will be able to be transferred to Sun & Moon.

Machamp with No Guard + Fissure TM = Uber.

Then transfer that to Sun & Moon... What have I done

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/sNWGEbc5Jzp4c/200_s.gif)

That's why I think No Guard will be probably updated to not affect OHKO moves. But even if it doesn't, it won't change anything on Smogon, since OHKO moves are banned, so not Uber.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Afterstormer on March 02, 2016, 04:19:52 PM
Since Pokémon from Red, Blue and Yellow will be able to be transferred to Sun & Moon.

Machamp with No Guard + Fissure TM = Uber.

Then transfer that to Sun & Moon... What have I done

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/sNWGEbc5Jzp4c/200_s.gif)

That's why I think No Guard will be probably updated to not affect OHKO moves. But even if it doesn't, it won't change anything on Smogon, since OHKO moves are banned, so not Uber.

Yeah, No Guard needs to be nerfed. Like Greninja

I will laugh at anyone who tries it when I'm using a flying type.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Рождественский Малыш Луиджи on March 02, 2016, 09:16:18 PM
Or using a Pokemon with Sturdy. Or Levitate.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Cirdec on March 03, 2016, 04:41:15 AM
Or using a Pokemon with Sturdy. Or Levitate.

Machamp has Stone Edge, Knock Off and Dynamic Punch to beat most of them though.
Rocky Helmet Skarmory seems like the best counter.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Anser on March 03, 2016, 12:09:33 PM
Well, since it's the Unpopular Pokémon opinions, I'll go ahead and give my unpopular opinion...

I think Red and Blue need yet another remake. Since Kanto is my favorite region, I'd love to see it in full 3D, and with updated metagame (Special split, Fairy-type, new items and abilities, Mega evolutions, etc). FireRed and LeafGreen were horrible for me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Captain America on July 13, 2016, 08:23:53 PM
In every generation except II and VI, the grass starter is my favorite. Venusaur, Sceptile, Torterra, and Serperior are all awesome and Rowlet is looking that way too. Chesnaught is also really cool but Greninja just etches him out as my favorite of he Gen VI starters.

Grass types in general are some of my favorites. There's the aforementioned starters but also Gogoat, Victreebel, Ferrothorn, Shiftry, Exeggutor, and Trevenant. Yeah grass is pretty meh in competitive, but I love me some grass types.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Marcia on July 21, 2016, 09:49:46 PM
I don't see what makes Gardevoir look feminine. I've always seen the "dress" as a cape or robe. And I think Gallade looks like it could be either gender as well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Afterstormer on November 30, 2016, 12:07:55 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Pheromosa on November 30, 2016, 12:13:38 PM
I've never really liked Garchomp
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Afterstormer on November 30, 2016, 12:44:03 PM
Also, I don't know if this is unpopular or not, but Mimikyu a very cute pokémon. One of my favourite ghost-types ever.
(http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/media/uploads/july_19_assets/ghost.png)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Pheromosa on January 07, 2017, 11:35:48 AM
Mandibuzz is my favorite Dark-type.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Xerexquii on January 22, 2017, 05:48:38 AM
I personally think Muk is a great Pokemon, honestly. People hate its design, but I enjoy it.

I also think competitive battling is boring, stupid, and difficult to figure out.

Here is another unpopular opinion. I think Pokemon Sun and Moon was a little less great because they added too many features. I have not played it, but I have seen the trailers. Gosh dang, too many new features.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: ArthurEngine on January 22, 2017, 06:02:21 AM
-Tyrantrum is my favourite Pokémon overall.
-I don't like Mega Latias or Mega Latios. It's too hard to tell them apart!
-Generation IV is underappreciated.
-Probopass is the funniest looking Pokémon.
-I prefer the Pokémon Stadium-style games, Pokken Tournament and Pokepark series over the mainstream games.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Pheromosa on January 22, 2017, 07:26:03 AM
Kingdra, Dragalge and Hydreigon are my favorite dragon-types.

Magcargo has a really cool design :3
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Captain America on January 22, 2017, 07:57:30 AM
I personally think Muk is a great Pokemon, honestly. People hate its design, but I enjoy it.

I also think competitive battling is boring, stupid, and difficult to figure out.

Here is another unpopular opinion. I think Pokemon Sun and Moon was a little less great because they added too many features. I have not played it, but I have seen the trailers. Gosh dang, too many new features.
Not gonna bother addressing the competitive comment, but how is having a bunch of new features a bad thing? I can tell you that the game still feels like the Pokémon games we've been playing for 20 years, but still feel fresh due to the changes that were made for the better.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Xerexquii on January 22, 2017, 10:48:47 AM
I personally think Muk is a great Pokemon, honestly. People hate its design, but I enjoy it.

I also think competitive battling is boring, stupid, and difficult to figure out.

Here is another unpopular opinion. I think Pokemon Sun and Moon was a little less great because they added too many features. I have not played it, but I have seen the trailers. Gosh dang, too many new features.
Not gonna bother addressing the competitive comment, but how is having a bunch of new features a bad thing? I can tell you that the game still feels like the Pokémon games we've been playing for 20 years, but still feel fresh due to the changes that were made for the better.

Thread has the name of "Unpopular Pokemon Opinions"




and that is my opinion
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Roserade on January 22, 2017, 11:01:03 AM
But you haven't even played the game yet.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Xerexquii on January 22, 2017, 11:03:43 AM
But you haven't even played the game yet.

I watched the trailers, and honestly, the new features would be too much for my brain to comprehend.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Captain America on January 22, 2017, 11:10:37 AM
What exactly is hard to comprehend?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: MnSG on January 22, 2017, 11:32:04 AM
Is it wrong if I said that the 1-hit KO attacks should go back to their 1st generation mechanics?

And for those who don't know, 1-hit KO attacks originally only worked if the user's current speed value was greater than that of the target, with their accuracy always being set at 30%.  If that kind of mechanic returned, it would make the 1-hit KO attacks become far less cheap.

Of course, if Trick Room is active, then the mechanics would get reversed in that the 1-hit KO attacks would only work if the user's current speed value is "lower" than its target.

Sturdy would still render all 1-hit KO attacks ineffective.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Pheromosa on January 22, 2017, 05:19:54 PM
I prefer Chandelure over Gengar.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on January 22, 2017, 06:34:15 PM
I stopped playing mainstream Pokemon because the forward and backward steps GameFreak does with their series dances and whips around more than a palm tree in a hurricane. It's so unnecessarily convoluted and it still plays, functions, and sounds like a game from the 90's.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Xerexquii on January 22, 2017, 09:18:10 PM
I stopped playing mainstream Pokemon because the forward and backward steps GameFreak does with their series dances and whips around more than a palm tree in a hurricane. It's so unnecessarily convoluted and it still plays, functions, and sounds like a game from the 90's.

True. The new games have the same formula every time. Collect Pokemon, defeat gym leaders, defeat Pokemon league, become champion, capture legendaries. Same thing. Also, the new offstream Pokemon games are *bleep*. They are terrible, unoriginal, and enjoyable for about 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on January 22, 2017, 10:03:05 PM
There's that too, but they seem to introduce mechanics that look like they're improving, but they remove them or water them down the next game. A few trends that did remains are unbreakable TMs and I hope HMs never see the light of the day again.

IDK I love Pokemon Mystery Dungeon and the reason I get excited for new Pokemon is mainly because I can eventually get around to using them, stats be danged.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Roserade on January 22, 2017, 10:26:25 PM
I stopped playing mainstream Pokemon because the forward and backward steps GameFreak does with their series dances and whips around more than a palm tree in a hurricane. It's so unnecessarily convoluted and it still plays, functions, and sounds like a game from the 90's.

True. The new games have the same formula every time. Collect Pokemon, defeat gym leaders, defeat Pokemon league, become champion, capture legendaries. Same thing.
I feel like Sun and Moon differentiate itself from this formula so that it remains nostalgic or familiar but is still unique. I highly recommend you pick up either version.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on January 22, 2017, 10:29:31 PM
I hear Sun and Moon introduced their share of frustration, so I'm very iffy on it. Besides, I just don't love Pokemon anymore. I'm more into Yo-Kai Watch as well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Roserade on January 22, 2017, 10:31:48 PM
I mean, yeah, there are a few things wrong with Sun and Moon like SOS battles. But the atmosphere and liberties it introduces make it probably the best Pokemon game I've ever played if nostalgia doesn't take effect.

Although I can totally see why you'd be more into Yo-Kai Watch.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: schmutz on January 22, 2017, 11:54:55 PM
I mean, yeah, there are a few things wrong with Sun and Moon like SOS battles.

sos battles are part of what's RIGHT with sun and moon lol
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Xerexquii on January 23, 2017, 05:44:06 AM
I hear Sun and Moon introduced their share of frustration, so I'm very iffy on it. Besides, I just don't love Pokemon anymore. I'm more into Yo-Kai Watch as well.

Same. I used to LOVE Pokemon, and I collected an average of over 300 cards, but now, I just cannot enjoy the games, the card game, or anything that involves Pokemon.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Pheromosa on January 31, 2017, 01:02:13 PM
Steelix is my favorite Steel type, and was for a long time my all-time favorite Pokémon.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Roserade on January 31, 2017, 01:25:13 PM
Steelix is my favorite Steel type, and was for a long time my all-time favorite Pokémon.
That's not really unpopular, I know a ton of people who love Steelix. Personally I'm attached to Scizor
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Pheromosa on January 31, 2017, 01:52:41 PM
Electrode is my favorite electric type.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Roserade on January 31, 2017, 01:53:06 PM
There you go.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Pheromosa on January 31, 2017, 02:20:38 PM
I prefer Mismagius over Gengar.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Pheromosa on March 14, 2017, 10:34:37 AM
I like Mandibuzz's design and I also prefer her over Skarmory.

I like Moltres and Entei equally, but I prefer Ho-Oh over both of them.

Ursaring is my favorite Normal type, and I also prefer it over Pangoro and Beartic.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Pheromosa on April 03, 2017, 03:37:26 AM
I prefer Ho-Oh over both Lugia and Yveltal but Yveltal is my second favorite legendary Pokémon, after Ho-Oh obviously.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Ninelevendo on April 03, 2017, 04:32:07 AM
Hey I got an unpopular opinion.

Only Gen 2 is good. *shots fired* Tbf I haven't played 6 or 7 but still
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Magikrazy on April 03, 2017, 09:16:11 AM
i used to unironically call myself a "gentoower"

but really i'm a gen 1-4 fan with no negative opinion on the other gens
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: MrRoidley on April 03, 2017, 12:22:36 PM
I think the only unpopular opinions I have (ok not the only but the only noteworthy ones) are that I think Sceptile is really overrated, same with the entire Rowlet line (even though I like the Rowlet line)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Roserade on April 03, 2017, 12:23:47 PM
This isn't an opinion I've ever heard, but Decidueye should be in Smash Bros.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Pheromosa on April 03, 2017, 01:35:13 PM
Entei and Moltres are my favorites of their respective trios.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Captain America on April 04, 2017, 08:43:19 AM
This isn't an opinion I've ever heard, but Decidueye should be in Smash Bros.
Makes the most sense as a gen VII rep, plus would have a really cool bow based moveset.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Weasel on April 04, 2017, 10:18:08 AM
but there are so many fire emblem archers
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Pheromosa on April 04, 2017, 06:02:35 PM
Durant is my favorite Bug-type.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: GmanSir on August 11, 2017, 05:21:42 PM
I laugh at people who hate Charizard for being popular because there is nothing they can do to stop it from being the fan favorite. I cannot fathom those who think they would rather Zard not return in Smash 4 because it wasn't "fair" to Squirtle and Ivysaur.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Captain America on August 11, 2017, 07:01:05 PM
I'm fine with Zard in Smash. I'm just sick of people acting like he's a viable pokemon outside of Megas. Regular Charizard is a piece of paper who gets shredded by rocks.

Does't help the anime has a massive Zard boner and was the reason Ash lost the Kalos League that was his and Greninja's to win. I swear if I hear Alain scream "BLASTO BURN" OR "DARUGON CLAW" again...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: GmanSir on August 11, 2017, 07:29:38 PM
On that note, I found it cringy whenever they said "Beyond Evolution: MEGA EVOLVE".
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Roy Mustang on August 11, 2017, 08:44:15 PM
Crabominable's design is okay
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Doof on August 12, 2017, 11:38:11 AM
I honestly don't care about Charizard's viability in battles (as with literally every single pokemon ever), I still love his design so I still love Charizard.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Captain America on August 12, 2017, 11:44:29 AM
Oh trust me, my favorite pokemon is Torterra, who is not very viable at all. As long as people are aware of Charizard's weakness, that's fine. It's the people who think he's the strongest thing ever because he swept a couple gym leaders.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mario's Drunken Holiday Special on August 12, 2017, 04:51:56 PM
I cannot fathom those who think they would rather Zard not return in Smash 4 because it wasn't "fair" to Squirtle and Ivysaur.
I'm still a little salty those two didn't return but Charizard made for a good punching bag.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Weasel on August 12, 2017, 09:09:21 PM
dude i loved using ivysaur
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Doof on August 12, 2017, 11:14:41 PM
Oh trust me, my favorite pokemon is Torterra, who is not very viable at all. As long as people are aware of Charizard's weakness, that's fine. It's the people who think he's the strongest thing ever because he swept a couple gym leaders.
Ok yeah I can respect that because I agree too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Roserade on August 12, 2017, 11:19:51 PM
dude i loved using ivysaur
Charizard was my least favorite of the three
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: GmanSir on August 13, 2017, 02:59:18 AM
I loved playing as every single Pokémon in Brawl, but if only one of the three Pkmn Trainer Pokémon could return, it was obvious it would be Charizard.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Captain America on August 13, 2017, 09:23:26 AM
I would have enjoyed playing as Pokémon trainer if they had removed that awful stamina mechanic.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Pheromosa on August 13, 2017, 12:14:21 PM
The type effectiveness for the three in Brawl shouldn't have been a thing to begin with
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Captain America on August 13, 2017, 12:37:42 PM
The type effectiveness for the three in Brawl shouldn't have been a thing to begin with
Oh that too.

Overall I love the concept of the Pokémon trainer character but it was very poorly implemented. The type effectiveness and stamina were really dumb mechanics. I get that it's supposed to be reminiscent of the Pokémon games but it just makes for an unfun character. It also just feels like three incomplete characters slapped together.

It's a shame we lost Squirtle and Ivysaur but having them as stand alone characters would have bumped the Pokémon series up to eight characters in Smash 4, which would be a little much, especially when six of those eight would be from Gen I.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: ArthurEngine on September 10, 2017, 05:28:32 AM
Another unpopular Pokemon opinion:

I wish Rhydon was the mascot of Pokemon instead of Pikachu or Clefairy. For 2 reasons:

1. Rhydon design is kind of a rhinoceros-dinosaur hybrid, which would show that Pokemon really are Pocket Monsters.

2. The real reason: Rhydon was the first Pokemon to have been created.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Mister Apple on September 10, 2017, 03:54:52 PM
It doesn't make sense* to me that the first pokémon created should be the mascot.

*If you ever find out that you've purchased a head...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pokemon opinions
Post by: Captain America on September 10, 2017, 04:01:26 PM
Pikachu is far more marketable than Rhydon.