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Re: Waluigi is being "phased out"
« Reply #100 on: December 02, 2011, 12:01:51 AM »
Toadette did have Paper Mario: TTYD as well; however, if you guys are counting the mainstream games, then I guess this would probably not count.

I don't know why Nintendo decided to add quite a few newcomers when they removed some of the veterans in the process. It could be possible that they were planned, but never made it into the final "rushed" version. Still, the question is why did Nintendo choose the newcomers over the veterans? Well it is Nintendo of course, so they probably wanted something new...

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Re: Waluigi is being "phased out"
« Reply #101 on: December 02, 2011, 03:10:43 AM »
I wouldn't call Waluigi a veteran

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Re: Waluigi is being "phased out"
« Reply #102 on: December 02, 2011, 08:00:04 AM »
I wouldn't call Waluigi a veteran

If Waluigi made a lot of spin-off appearances (which he did), he pretty much counts as a veteran.

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Re: Waluigi is being "phased out"
« Reply #103 on: December 02, 2011, 08:03:00 AM »
let's recreate Waluigi aggressively

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Re: Waluigi is being "phased out"
« Reply #104 on: December 02, 2011, 12:46:29 PM »
The "Waluigi is meaningless because he hasnīt showed up in a main game" argument is just tiring me. First of all, Mario is no longer just a series of platform game but a whole franchise. If we are going to dismiss the sports and multiplayer games as not that important for justifying giving the boot to a character that has been around for more than 10 years, then we shouldnīt be drooling over the next Mario Party, RPG, Tennis, Kart, or whatever game that is not a platformer, if those games are really unimportant. Also, some poeple have a double standard here, since some donīt consider certain Mario games spin offs according to their own tastes (for some, the Kart series does not count as a sport game and it is main, other people count the rpgs as main despite not being platformers too, etc).

Also, DK, Wario, and ESPECIALLY Daisy have had very little appearances in the "main" series, and most of their characterization comes from their own series and the sports games (and, in Daisyīs case, sports games only). If we actually donīt count sports, spin offs and anything non-platformer, they merely become a past enemy that hasnīt showed up in more than four games in 25 years, an one time villain and an one time damsel in distress.

So, yeah, letīs not have a double standard: Either the non-platformer Mario games donīt count, or they do.

Last, but not least, is the fact that not putting Waluigi in a "main" game (in quotes because, here, "main" differs from person to person) because heīs not popular enough, then complaining about his sports appearances because heīs unimportant due to not having showed up in a main game, is downright contradictory. Itīs a never ending cycle: Waluigi is not important so heīs demoted to spin off only, yet he should be kicked out of spinoffs because if he doesnīt show up in a main game and that means heīs not important, yet heīll never be in a main game because heīs not important so he should be reserved for spin offs only and... argh

Itīs like when youīre trying to get your first important job (or any job for that matter due to the current crisis), and youīre required to have a ridiculous amount of years of experience, yet you can never get any experience if youīre never hired in any job, which causes you to keep being unemployed due to the lack of experience, and the cycle repeats itself. See the inconsistency? Well, the younger folks might not understand this example, but the older ones, if they exist in this forum, will.

On a more personal note, I think Waluigi is a character that needed to be created, so Wario could have someone to mirror the Mario Bros fully instead of being on his own. I consider him part of the core cast, partly due to his goofy characterization, which, along with Wario, gives the funniest scenes in the series (as in the whole Mario-verse) which is what makes him a funny and likeable character. For me, itīs absolutely inexcusable to have Wario and not having Waluigi or viceversa. In fact, itīs weird for me to go back and play any of the older SNES, GBC and N64 Mario multiplayer titles and having Wario but not Waluigi.

I donīt need a solo game for Waluigi, but he should be put with Wario, in platformers and/or at least in the Warioware games, and I donīt mean cameos in microgames, which he had in Smoth Moves and D.I.Y, but as a full fledged character with his own cutscenes, outfit and microgames.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2011, 12:50:15 PM by Easmo »

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Re: Waluigi is being "phased out"
« Reply #105 on: December 02, 2011, 12:54:43 PM »
I agree with you Easmo, but you need to do something about your writing style. If you're going to be making long posts like that you need to stop using ` where you should be using '. It slows reading comprehension. Also, you used "Last, but not least" less than halfway through your post.
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Re: Waluigi is being "phased out"
« Reply #106 on: December 02, 2011, 12:56:54 PM »
Oh, sure. I sometimes mistake the punctuation signs due to english not being my first language. And the long rants... yeah, I need to organize them better :P I feel like Cranky Kong, who keeps rambling

The "last but not least" was used there because it was my last point about the double standard. The post can still continue after that because it goes on about another subject.

Also, can you please point where I did punctuate wrong? I donīt see the signs in reverse like you say, so I donīt know if Iīm doing something wrong or if it is something language based (keyboard configuration is different in each language you know) that makes it appear that way to you.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2011, 12:59:40 PM by Easmo »

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Re: Waluigi is being "phased out"
« Reply #107 on: December 02, 2011, 09:26:35 PM »
I'm nitpicking, your puncuation is fine. Just kind of a pet peeve of mine seeing ` where I'm used to seeing '. Still, I'd suggest setting up multiple keyboard layouts(this is pretty easy on Windows Vista, don't know about anything else) for when you're typing in English.
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Re: Waluigi is being "phased out"
« Reply #108 on: December 03, 2011, 04:06:53 PM »
Huh, I've seen much worse grammar/punctuation. Easmo's ` didn't slow me at reading.

Anyway, I agree with Easmo's points here. I don't understand why people seem to prioritize mainstream over spinoff. I enjoy both equally. In fact, spinoffs last longer due to multiplayer functions.
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Re: Waluigi is being "phased out"
« Reply #109 on: December 05, 2011, 10:12:10 PM »
I really think Nintendo was considering adding the characters cut into Mario Kart 7, but they could not do it due to time and space restraints. So I definitely don't think Waluigi is being "phased out", just because he was left out in one game doesn't mean he's gone.
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Re: Waluigi is being "phased out"
« Reply #110 on: December 05, 2011, 10:15:04 PM »
I really think Nintendo was considering adding the characters cut into Mario Kart 7, but they could not do it due to time and space restraints. So I definitely don't think Waluigi is being "phased out", just because he was left out in one game doesn't mean he's gone.

Ditto.  Besides, Waluigi is playable in Fortune Street, and the London 2012 Olympic Games.  And he will be playable in the 3DS version of the London Olympics as well.

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Re: Waluigi is being "phased out"
« Reply #111 on: December 05, 2011, 10:16:53 PM »
I really think Nintendo was considering adding the characters cut into Mario Kart 7, but they could not do it due to time and space restraints. So I definitely don't think Waluigi is being "phased out", just because he was left out in one game doesn't mean he's gone.

Ditto.  Besides, Waluigi is playable in Fortune Street, and the London 2012 Olympic Games.  And he will be playable in the 3DS version of the London Olympics as well.

Those games are in the same development time in Mario Kart 7, though. I was thinking about games that will be developed later. Still, I don't think Nintendo will hesitate to add Waluigi in the next Mario Kart because it definitely caused a lot of commotion.
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Re: Waluigi is being "phased out"
« Reply #112 on: December 09, 2011, 05:16:26 AM »
Waluigi?
Most of my friends don't like him...But I don't think that he'll be phrased out because he often appears in MARIO KART series...

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Re: Waluigi is being "phased out"
« Reply #113 on: December 09, 2011, 04:54:13 PM »
it's proably just a one off that Waluigi dosen't appear

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Re: Waluigi is being "phased out"
« Reply #114 on: December 13, 2011, 06:53:26 AM »
I was at GameStop today and according to the guy at the counter Nintendo is planning on phasing out Waluigi. Is This True????

AND IT DOESNT AFFECT ME IN ANYWAY CAUSE I DON' LIKEM
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Re: Waluigi is being "phased out"
« Reply #115 on: December 13, 2011, 12:28:38 PM »
Thought Id put this here. I emailed Yasuyuki Oyagi regarding Waluigi's possible omission and a few other things a month ago.

I finally got a reply back:

Hello Chris,
Waluigi's omission from Mario Kart 7 was a hard one for us here at Nintendo. It was due to the time constraints associated with the Christmas deadline for the game. Rest assured Waluigi will be making further appearances in the Mario series for at least the next few years. Also understand some characters, such as Waluigi, are more expendable then others and space was limited. The game needed Bowser, DK, Wario and it didnt need the few expendable characters that we here consider "cult classics". We needed a balance between new racers and our standards. Also, regarding Wario as an unlockable character for future games, that will not happen. This was a one-time instance to pay tribute to the SNES original and nothing more. Koopa Kid is retired.

Yasuyuki Oyagi

« Last Edit: December 13, 2011, 12:33:56 PM by KingBooWarioSir »

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Re: Waluigi is being "phased out"
« Reply #116 on: December 13, 2011, 12:38:36 PM »
Aww, no more Koopa Kid?  :'(

Since they're always "aware" of Waluigi, etc. existing, why does it seem like they forget about them when they make non-spin off games? A cameo would be something at least...I'd love to talk to that guy about that...

They would never phase him out. He's been around far too long for them to get away with it. Same for Daisy, Toadette, etc.

Here's an interesting fact: Not counting SML, MK7 was the first game to have Daisy but not Waluigi, but multiple games have had Waluigi but not Daisy.
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Re: Waluigi is being "phased out"
« Reply #117 on: December 13, 2011, 01:22:07 PM »
Here's an interesting fact: Not counting SML, MK7 was the first game to have Daisy but not Waluigi, but multiple games have had Waluigi but not Daisy.

I cant think of any game waluigi's in that daisy is not besides Mario golf advanced Tour, Mario DDR, and Game & Watch Gallery Advance.....
« Last Edit: December 13, 2011, 01:25:18 PM by KingBooWarioSir »

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Re: Waluigi is being "phased out"
« Reply #118 on: December 13, 2011, 02:05:06 PM »
^ There you go. :P Also, in a way, Mario Kart Arcade GP2. Daisy WAS in the game (as a bystander during the awards ceremonies and her face on the Daisy Cruiser in the background of a beach course), but was not playable, while Waluigi was.
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Re: Waluigi is being "phased out"
« Reply #119 on: December 13, 2011, 03:02:52 PM »
Thought Id put this here. I emailed Yasuyuki Oyagi regarding Waluigi's possible omission and a few other things a month ago.

I finally got a reply back:

Hello Chris,
Waluigi's omission from Mario Kart 7 was a hard one for us here at Nintendo. It was due to the time constraints associated with the Christmas deadline for the game. Rest assured Waluigi will be making further appearances in the Mario series for at least the next few years. Also understand some characters, such as Waluigi, are more expendable then others and space was limited. The game needed Bowser, DK, Wario and it didnt need the few expendable characters that we here consider "cult classics". We needed a balance between new racers and our standards. Also, regarding Wario as an unlockable character for future games, that will not happen. This was a one-time instance to pay tribute to the SNES original and nothing more. Koopa Kid is retired.

Yasuyuki Oyagi



Oh, thanks for that now i understand with why Bowser Jr wasnt in , you see SM3DL didnt contain BJ because it was paying a tribute to Super Mario Bros 3